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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post

    The nocturnal journey (al-lsra'wal Mi'raj), Muhammad was transported one night on a winged horse from Mecca to Jerusalem where he led Abraham, Moses, and Jesus in prayer. Afterwards, Muhammad ascended to heaven (the Moon) on a winged horse accompanied by the archangel Gabriel.
    Originally posted by dsc View Post
    So earlier on today Israel bombed the Rafah crossing where there's a tulip ton of civilians waiting to get into Egypt. How is this not a bloody war crime? Even with Hamas hiding in between civilians, you don't just bloody bomb the lot. Russians did a lot of similar tulipe in Ukraine and were automatically called out, why the hell there's pretty much no reaction here? (apart from maybe UN, which already criticised the 24hr deadline for fleeing Gaza).
    Citation required. Just as likely to be Hamas....
    Blog? What blog...?

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      https://www.britannica.com/topic/Buraq

      https://www.oxfordreference.com/disp...%20in%20prayer.
      Last edited by Paddy; 16 October 2023, 20:59.
      "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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        Originally posted by dsc View Post
        So earlier on today Israel bombed the Rafah crossing where there's a tulip ton of civilians waiting to get into Egypt. How is this not a bloody war crime? Even with Hamas hiding in between civilians, you don't just bloody bomb the lot. Russians did a lot of similar tulipe in Ukraine and were automatically called out, why the hell there's pretty much no reaction here? (apart from maybe UN, which already criticised the 24hr deadline for fleeing Gaza).
        There was a video a few days ago showing a van blowing up on the road South. Of course Hamas claimed Israel. Lot of video/military forensic 'experts' broke the video(s) frame by frame, no evidence of a missile strike (plus stuff about how the explosion nor the aftermath didn't look like a missile explosion), strongly suggesting it was an improvised device inside the car, ie hamas.

        Although having watched the Rafah video you do so an object before explosion. No injuries though? IDF took responsibility for previous strikes at the gate, so I'll be surprised if they didn't claim this one eventually. The munitions IDF are currently using do not miss, they are not dumb bombs,

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          Originally posted by JustKeepSwimming View Post

          . The munitions IDF are currently using do not miss, they are not dumb bombs,

          Maybe they do sometimes. Same as Ukraine's. Why Ukraine’s GPS-Guided Bombs Keep Missing Their Targets (popularmechanics.com)

          Russian GPS jamming in Syria, meant to protect military bases, creates service disruptions as far away as Turkey, Lebanon, Israel, and Cyprus.
          But I discovered nothing else but depraved, excessive superstition. Pliny the younger

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            Originally posted by JustKeepSwimming View Post

            The munitions IDF are currently using do not miss, they are not dumb bombs,
            They are still explosives, so destroy buildings which then collapse or simply do bangs big enough to kill bystanders, there will always be collateral damage, which is why you don't launch weapons into heavy civilian populated areas. That in itself is a war crime if I'm not mistaken.

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              Originally posted by malvolio View Post



              Citation required. Just as likely to be Hamas....
              indeed.

              In the same vein I am seeing 'reports' of Israel bombing Lebanon, Damascus and Egypt, as well as Rafah. They can't all be true (cos Israel is angry not mad) but the reports all have the same legitimacy (hearsay).
              See You Next Tuesday

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                Originally posted by dsc View Post

                They are still explosives, so destroy buildings which then collapse or simply do bangs big enough to kill bystanders, there will always be collateral damage, which is why you don't launch weapons into heavy civilian populated areas. That in itself is a war crime if I'm not mistaken.
                Sort of why Hamas constantly use civilians as human shields and blow up a few to raise the body count.

                The Israelis are not stupid they record and analyse everything.

                They want to get the civilians out and kill every last Hamas disciple. Frankly I suspect most western countries understand.

                One hopes the Israelis have set off the credit commandos to track the funding and drop each major donor off at the Hague for trial dead or alive.
                Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                  Originally posted by vetran View Post

                  Sort of why Hamas constantly use civilians as human shields and blow up a few to raise the body count.

                  The Israelis are not stupid they record and analyse everything.

                  They want to get the civilians out and kill every last Hamas disciple. Frankly I suspect most western countries understand.

                  One hopes the Israelis have set off the credit commandos to track the funding and drop each major donor off at the Hague for trial dead or alive.
                  Well one of those donors will be Iran... It's also quite probable that a lot more originate here and in the US, there are a lot of "displaced" Palestinians in the world.

                  As for the veracity of reporting, Hamas and friends are also the source of a lot of those reports so they may not be particularly trustworthy. For one thing, their casualty figures for deaths within Gaza do not distinguish between civilians and Hamas troops hiding behind them.
                  Blog? What blog...?

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                    Originally posted by vetran View Post
                    They want to get the civilians out and kill every last Hamas disciple.
                    .
                    You clearly never known anyone whose family had dealings with militant/terrorist groups have you?
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                      Originally posted by dsc View Post

                      They are still explosives, so destroy buildings which then collapse or simply do bangs big enough to kill bystanders, there will always be collateral damage, which is why you don't launch weapons into heavy civilian populated areas. That in itself is a war crime if I'm not mistaken.
                      You are mistaken. There are protocols against using incendiary weapons in heavily populated areas, but not weaponry in general. There is a duty to minimise civilian casualities by, e.g. giving warning, using precision weaponry. It's also permitted to target schools and hospitals if they're being used by combatants. Again, due warning must be given. What could make it a war crime is using imprecise weaponry, indiscriminate targetting and weapons with wide area effects - as Russia has been doing, for example.

                      Sources. International Committee of the Red Cross, UN Human Rights Council, Human Rights Watch
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