Gaza blockaded

[Zigenare]

Easy to forget sometimes that we're all the same species.

What would it take to unite the entire human race? A hostile alien invasion from outer space?

Probably not. No doubt some feckers would side with the aliens if it meant there was a chance of wiping out their human enemies.

A bit like Jews taking shelter in neutral Ireland during the second world war - mind you it pissed them off somewhat when Irish PM de Valera went to the German embassy in Dublin and offered his commiserations over the suicide of Hitler.

[Fraidycat]

Today i learnt one of the main underlying causes for this tulipe show, is just 35 acres of land.

A 1000 year old sacred mosque in east Jerusalem that the Jews say was formerly the location of sacred Jewish temples.

Muslims are pissed that the Israelis control access to the site.

Google 'Temple mount' or watch this video: https://youtu.be/Lb3v8M8dzic?feature=shared

[malvolio]

Today i learnt one of the main underlying causes for this tulipe show, is just 35 acres of land.

A 1000 year old sacred mosque in east Jerusalem that the Jews say was formerly the location of sacred Jewish temples.

Muslims are pissed that the Israelis control access to the site.

Google 'Temple mount' or watch this video: https://youtu.be/Lb3v8M8dzic?feature=shared

Yet again, education by xformerlyknownastwitter

Jerusalem was found in around 3500 BCE. King David made is his capital some 500 years later and the temple was built by his son about 40 years after that. The Crusades were an attempt to take Jerusalem back from the Muslims who had occupied the city and driven out the Jewish population.

So I think the cause is a lot deeper that you've been told. And the Muslim claim to the city is a little spurious, and although you can understand why they might want their mosque back they don't have any absolute right to it. Furthermore, since the people making the demands are also the ones who fail to recognise Israel's legitimacy, the Israelis are not all that willing to make a gesture in their direction (apart rom the obvious one, of course).

[NotAllThere]

And then go back to our internecine rivalry once the southern shandy drinkers had been taught the errors of their ways.

Well, yes...

Fraidycat Check out when the Israelis gained control over the Temple on the Mount. The main underlying cause was already underlaid way before then.

[vetran]

Yet again, education by xformerlyknownastwitter

Jerusalem was found in around 3500 BCE. King David made is his capital some 500 years later and the temple was built by his son about 40 years after that. The Crusades were an attempt to take Jerusalem back from the Muslims who had occupied the city and driven out the Jewish population.

So I think the cause is a lot deeper that you've been told. And the Muslim claim to the city is a little spurious, and although you can understand why they might want their mosque back they don't have any absolute right to it. Furthermore, since the people making the demands are also the ones who fail to recognise Israel's legitimacy, the Israelis are not all that willing to make a gesture in their direction (apart rom the obvious one, of course).

Indeed when 'we invaded' Muslim land they were occupying Spain. Christian pilgrims were being attacked going to Jerusalem which is why Pope Urban asked for crusaders.

[Paddy]

Today i learnt one of the main underlying causes for this tulipe show, is just 35 acres of land.

A 1000 year old sacred mosque in east Jerusalem that the Jews say was formerly the location of sacred Jewish temples.

Muslims are pissed that the Israelis control access to the site.

Google 'Temple mount' or watch this video: https://youtu.be/Lb3v8M8dzic?feature=shared

The nocturnal journey (al-lsra'wal Mi'raj), Muhammad was transported one night on a winged horse from Mecca to Jerusalem where he led Abraham, Moses, and Jesus in prayer. Afterwards, Muhammad ascended to heaven (the Moon) on a winged horse accompanied by the archangel Gabriel.

[malvolio]

The nocturnal journey (al-lsra'wal Mi'raj), Muhammad was transported one night on a winged horse from Mecca to Jerusalem where he led Abraham, Moses, and Jesus in prayer. Afterwards, Muhammad ascended to heaven (the Moon) on a winged horse accompanied by the archangel Gabriel.

Yes, we know the story and why the mosque is important but . why do you think it is relevant to the actual situation?

[DoctorStrangelove]

Indeed when 'we invaded' Muslim land they were occupying Spain. Christian pilgrims were being attacked going to Jerusalem which is why Pope Urban asked for crusaders.

Battle of Tours 732 AD.

Close run thing.

A victorious line of march had been prolonged above a thousand miles from the rock of Gibraltar to the banks of the Loire; the repetition of an equal space would have carried the Saracens to the confines of Poland and the Highlands of Scotland; the Rhine is not more impassable than the Nile or Euphrates, and the Arabian fleet might have sailed without a naval combat into the mouth of the Thames.

Perhaps the interpretation of the Koran would now be taught in the schools of Oxford, and her pulpits might demonstrate to a circumcised people the sanctity and truth of the revelation of Mahomet

[Fraidycat]

Yes, we know the story and why the mosque is important but . why do you think it is relevant to the actual situation?

Hamas called this latest attack Operation Al-Aqsa Storm, Al-Aqsa is the name of the mosque.

[dsc]

So earlier on today Israel bombed the Rafah crossing where there's a tulip ton of civilians waiting to get into Egypt. How is this not a bloody war crime? Even with Hamas hiding in between civilians, you don't just bloody bomb the lot. Russians did a lot of similar tulipe in Ukraine and were automatically called out, why the hell there's pretty much no reaction here? (apart from maybe UN, which already criticised the 24hr deadline for fleeing Gaza).