801 Migrants cross English Channel in 1 day

[woody1]

Brilliant. I wonder why we hadn't thought of that before.

It is of course entirely possible that the gangs can easily overwhelm the resources of the French police on the shore line (which is bigger then you think). The police are trying to disable the boats before they are launched, but it's too risky to do so once they are in the water. And if they do stop a boat everyone melts back into the undergrowth and waits for the next one.

As for throwing money at the problem, haven't you been listening to Martha Reeves?

Yes Tory boy but whatever it costs to prevent them coming in the first place will be a fraction of what it costs to take care of them once they've arrived.

[malvolio]

Yes Tory boy but whatever it costs to prevent them coming in the first place will be a fraction of what it costs to take care of them once they've arrived.

Since they are coming through at least three safe countries to get here, why should it cost us anything?

And for the last time stop conflating "tory" with a deep disdain for anything to do with Labour. Especially the current bunch of deceitful TUC-driven amateurs I don't like the Tories very much either.

[NigelJK]

Do you mean the ECHR?

That was used as the argument that they should be paid. The law was made as the Judge agreed with the barrister in question (one K Starmer). You can't make this stuff up.

[vetran]

send them to Albania!! Oh sorry Germany beat us to it?

[SueEllen]

send them to Albania!! Oh sorry Germany beat us to it?

Italy!

Albania and Italy are bestest of friends.

[woody1]

Since they are coming through at least three safe countries to get here, why should it cost us anything?

It shouldn't but no country is going to prevent them leaving their country and moving to another.

Apart from the loss of life, I doubt it's bothering the French much that they're coming here, so unfortunately it's down to us to stop the trafficking.

[vetran]

Italy!

Albania and Italy are bestest of friends.

Albania & Germany sitting in a tree and of course Rawanda

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ia-2023-11-11/


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyl5p2zd50o

Germany could make use of facilities funded by the UK to process some asylum seekers in Rwanda, the country's migration agreements commissioner has suggested.

Joachim Stamp, from the Free Democratic Party, which is a junior partner in the governing coalition, suggested accommodation originally intended for people deported from the UK could be utilised by Germany.

[tazdevil]

A few of those Israeli maritime robot boats equipped with machine guns and migrant identifying AI tech should act as a decent deterrent

[NotAllThere]

if a person is rescued by a UK flagged ship, we can't send them back to France..

That's due to conventions and agreements with France. However, it does happen and it's happened recently. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2lk950y1gpo

Due to Brexit and therefore the withdrawal from the Dover agreement, there's no obligation on the French to accept these migrants back. They can simply and legally refuse to allow them to disembark.

Since they are coming through at least three safe countries to get here, why should it cost us anything?

Because we left the EU and the Dublin agreement - and having migrants living on the streets and possibly dying of exposure isn't good optics. Even for Tory governments.

According to https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/cha...ssings-tracker (beware if immigration causes your blood pressure to rise), since the beginning of the year, it's been on average 108 migrants per day.

Currently the number of migrants is at 2023 levels, but below 2022, when at the same date, there were 2500 more.

[vetran]

That's due to conventions and agreements with France. However, it does happen and it's happened recently. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2lk950y1gpo

Due to Brexit and therefore the withdrawal from the Dover agreement, there's no obligation on the French to accept these migrants back. They can simply and legally refuse to allow them to disembark.


Because we left the EU and the Dublin agreement - and having migrants living on the streets and possibly dying of exposure isn't good optics. Even for Tory governments.

According to https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/cha...ssings-tracker (beware if immigration causes your blood pressure to rise), since the beginning of the year, it's been on average 108 migrants per day.

Currently the number of migrants is at 2023 levels, but below 2022, when at the same date, there were 2500 more.

Damn if only we had an Empire we could deport them without issue. Maybe we need to invade Normandy to get our own back? We could relocate the Calais jungle to Gay Paris!