801 Migrants cross English Channel in 1 day

[Snooky]

Good grief, geography is not your string point is it?

We all have our weaknesses. For some it's geography; for others, spelling.

[northernladuk]

We all have our weaknesses. For some it's geography; for others, spelling.

[Snooky]

Would you now like to point out in Maritime Law where it says that those rescued at sea must be taken to the UK just because the rescuing vessel is UK flagged?

Hopefully this article helps to explain why that isn't as simple as Reform would like to make out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyxeedx40d8o

[vetran]

Hopefully this article helps to explain why that isn't as simple as Reform would like to make out.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyxeedx40d8o

In fact, Article 19 of UNCLOS says that if a "foreign ship" enters another country's territorial waters it will "be considered to be prejudicial to the peace" if "it engages in the loading or unloading of any... person contrary to the immigration laws" of that country.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ing-Dover.html

'I have a French warship to the west which is escorting a boat of migrants!' English ship captain's damning radio messages accuse French Navy of 'illegal human trafficking' to Dover

The French navy/lifeboats/Coastguards are escorting the boats into British waters. So war with France again!

[WTFH]

85% of refugees settle in the country next to where they came from
But that's not good dog-whistle politics for the racists.

Germany takes 4x the number of refugees the UK takes.
France takes 3x the number of refugees the UK takes, but that's not what you'll find in the Express/Telegraph/Mail.

[woody1]

Germany takes 4x the number of refugees the UK takes.
France takes 3x the number of refugees the UK takes, but that's not what you'll find in the Express/Telegraph/Mail.

So instead of bashing the Tory government, they could have reported it as a success story.

UK four times better than Germany and three times better than France at keeping the migrants out

Probably not what their readers want to hear though.

[northernladuk]

85% of refugees settle in the country next to where they came from
But that's not good dog-whistle politics for the racists.

Germany takes 4x the number of refugees the UK takes.
France takes 3x the number of refugees the UK takes, but that's not what you'll find in the Express/Telegraph/Mail.

I see what you are saying but both are bigger than the UK, France being 2.5 times the size. UK also has the 4th highest population density at 434 people per sq km. France has 122. You could argue it's France that's not doing it's bit.

Further factors are Scotland is a third the size of the UK but has only taken 6% of the UK's net migrants so one third of the UK can almost be discounted leaving 2/3rds to take the weight and that's not looking at Wales and NI. So looking at available space the UK is even smaller and is likely to average out with, as I say, France probably being the ones not pulling their weight. Just saying 4x MORE doesn't really mean anything.

Oh.. and it's not really a flag to fly as both countries have a migration crisis problem so hardly a good comparison. You can throw stats left right and center but it's a big problem and it's going to get worse surely.

[vetran]

85% of refugees settle in the country next to where they came from
But that's not good dog-whistle politics for the racists.

Germany takes 4x the number of refugees the UK takes.
France takes 3x the number of refugees the UK takes, but that's not what you'll find in the Express/Telegraph/Mail.

Sadly not but luckily Sweden is starting to realise. Germany is talking about closing their borders.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...migrant-crisis

Expert warns Sweden on 'brink of civil war' as country gripped by migrant violence

EXCLUSIVE: Spiralling gun crime, marauding migrant gangs and fascist violence - how Sweden became Europe's crime capital.

https://www.politico.eu/article/swed...nnar-strommer/

Sweden’s juvenile gang crime wave will take a decade to fix, senior minister says


The country’s gun crime rate is among the highest in the EU, and internationally linked gangs are now recruiting children.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67342368

Gangland shootings and bombings that have plagued Sweden's biggest cities have spread to quieter suburbs and towns, shattering its reputation as a safe and peaceful nation.

Half an hour north of central Stockholm, Upplands-Bro features lakeside boat clubs, copper-red wooden villas and apartments flanked by pine and spruce trees.

But a 14-year-old boy was found dead in a forest here in August, and since January there have been several shootings and bombings targeting houses and apartments.

Sounds like a real success story!

What are we going to do with all the Doctors, Nurses and Nuclear physicists coming across in boats?

[woody1]

So much for taking back control of our borders.

But hey look on the bright side, at least it's something to moan about apart from the weather.

[WTFH]

You can throw stats left right and center.

Firstly, it’s “centre”, not :”center” - the UK is not owned by Trump & Putin.

Secondly, this thread literally is headlined with a “stat”, and Reform UK and the racists/facists that support it like to pedal a message that nowhere in the EU takes any asylum seekers, but they all come to the UK. This is clearly a blatant lie by a bunch of well-known liars who are allowed to spread their lies, supported by the right and far right populist press - the ones that don’t pay tax in the UK, but should be treated as being part of the people..

Thirdly, we read stories that the boats are all full of men, and then when one sinks the facts come out that there are women and children on there too. But Farage and his rioters will refuse to accept that, hatred can’t cope with truth, they even rebrand it “Truth Social” or “Newspeak”