801 Migrants cross English Channel in 1 day

[vetran]

Firstly, it’s “centre”, not :”center” - the UK is not owned by Trump & Putin.

Secondly, this thread literally is headlined with a “stat”, and Reform UK and the racists/facists that support it like to pedal a message that nowhere in the EU takes any asylum seekers, but they all come to the UK. This is clearly a blatant lie by a bunch of well-known liars who are allowed to spread their lies, supported by the right and far right populist press - the ones that don’t pay tax in the UK, but should be treated as being part of the people..

Thirdly, we read stories that the boats are all full of men, and then when one sinks the facts come out that there are women and children on there too. But Farage and his rioters will refuse to accept that, hatred can’t cope with truth, they even rebrand it “Truth Social” or “Newspeak”

I love it labelling everyone who questions immigration as a racist is straight out of the politburo/1984 playbook maybe you can call them an enemy of the state?

’You are free to be a drunkard, an idler, a coward, a backbiter, a fornicator; but you are not free to think for yourself.’

Many countries in the EU are reconsidering their immigration policies. Germany & Italy fancy Rwanda/Albania. So all those racists can't be Farage supporters. All those that seem to think unlimited immigration is good for countries are most definitely swimming against the tide of public opinion in most countries and not paying attention to the news.

The official figures put the adult males at 60%+ the adult females are bout 20%.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...le%201%20below).

Of the 91,047 people who applied for asylum in the year ending March 2023, two-thirds (62%) were males aged 18 to 49. Children (aged 17 and under) accounted for almost a fifth (18%) of people applying for asylum (see table 1 below).

Of course plenty of 30 year old men present as 17.


https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/pre...%20be%20adults.

hey show that between 2012 and 2021, 52 asylum seekers claiming to be children when they applied for asylum were later found to be 30 years old or more.

[vetran]

And another story for the "thought crime czar".

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...me-crisis.html

In just five days since the reintroduction of border checks at all eight of Germany's borders, federal police have detected almost 900 unauthorised entries.

And of those, 640 people were turned back, almost 100 migrants were stopped at the western border, 17 extremists were identified, and 114 arrest warrants were executed.

Imagine controlling your borders!

[woody1]

It should be much easier for us than countries with land borders, like Germany, which are a lot harder to control.

Just saying...

[northernladuk]

I love it labelling everyone who questions immigration as a racist is straight out of the politburo/1984 playbook maybe you can call them an enemy of the state?

This is my problem. I'm not hardline, nor do I consider myself racist but it's starting to irk me more and more yet I don't feel I can say anything or get involved for fear of being torn a new one and called a racist. In the response to WTFH I've just pointed out some geographical facts, nothing more, yet have had a rather sharp and stern response. I'm not looking to argue, just present some plain facts about the size of a country. I genuinely think immigration is one of the biggest problems in this current day and we are heading for disaster. I have nothing against the actual people but I do think the state of immigration is totally broken. Even if it's not a problem now where are we going to be in 10 years? Does that make me racist? I honestly don't know.

WTFH seems to have a strong response to anyone making a comment about the immigration problem regardless of whether it's a factual comment or a direct attack on immigration so my question to WTFH, and I'm genuinely interested, do you think immigration as it is is OK? You don't have any problem with it and anyone that wants to argue against it is wrong? Because that's the impression I'm getting. You honestly don't think immigration is a problem that is out of control? Not attacking your opinions, I'm just genuinely interested to understand what people who argue with anti immigration thinks.

[sadkingbilly]

Can't we just have a 'Daily Fail' thread? then anyone who likes can read all the crap in one place.
ohh, wait.................

[vetran]

There is no doubt managed immigration is a good thing.

https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/why-...nners-ctycke48

22% of Nobel winners are Jewish yet Jews make up 0.2% of the world population.

Do you know how many VC winners are foreign?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...by_nationality

20% of the NHS are foreign nationals

Many of our University lecturers are immigrants or descendants.

The US would never have flown to the moon without German rocket scientists.

Why wouldn't we want controlled immigration?

But the social pyramid expects the highest paid to fund the benefits for the lowest paid.

By importing cheap labour, wages don't rise and tax take falls. More people means more services, housing etc.

Who is going to pay for immigrants on low pay's pension etc?

[vetran]

wibble wibble drivel.

FTFY as usual.

[sadkingbilly]

Tirade of fascist polemic.

aye, - right!

[vetran]

Bollards

FTFY

[WTFH]

I love it labelling everyone who questions immigration as a racist is straight out of the politburo/1984 playbook maybe you can call them an enemy of the state?

Funny enough, I didn’t label “everyone who questions immigration”, in the same way that I don’t label every Jew in the world as supporting Netanyahu, or every Palestinian in the world as supporting Hamas, even though that is what you do.

If you read the words I wrote, I did not say that ALL supporters of Reform were racists and facists, but that racists and facists support Reform. There’s a big difference.
Use of language is a wonderful thing, such as your immediate claims of 1984 and “enemy of the state”.
I vaguely remember a Home Secretary a few months ago wanting to send people to the middle of Africa to be “processed” and if they were “processed” successfully, they would be allowed to stay in an unsafe African country.