Gaza blockaded

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It's still a ****ed up action don't you think? How would they even confirm he's dead without troops on the ground? A hit only makes sense if you can actually be sure the target was eliminated.

If Russia was using the same response ie. we bombed a school to kill a few soldiers sitting in the cellar the world would be super quick to call it a war crime. Here it's "oh well, tulip happens". Talk about double standards.

And yes I do get they are fighting terrorists but US warned them to not go in all red from rage. Seems like they did just that and it doesn't look like they will back down anytime soon. I wouldn't be surprised if this triggers a massive conflict with several countries involved simply because IDF has a bulldozer approach.

[JustKeepSwimming]

It's still a ****ed up action don't you think? How would they even confirm he's dead without troops on the ground? A hit only makes sense if you can actually be sure the target was eliminated.

If Russia was using the same response ie. we bombed a school to kill a few soldiers sitting in the cellar the world would be super quick to call it a war crime. Here it's "oh well, tulip happens". Talk about double standards.

And yes I do get they are fighting terrorists but US warned them to not go in all red from rage. Seems like they did just that and it doesn't look like they will back down anytime soon. I wouldn't be surprised if this triggers a massive conflict with several countries involved simply because IDF has a bulldozer approach.

TBH I'm bored of pussy arse ***** who live in the West and never said boo to a goose.

If a legitimate target hides amongst non combative they are still a legitimate target, Hamas or Russian or whatever.

You do not get to monopolise what is a war crime. International law is clear. If Putin was surrounded by a 1000 children, a strike upon him would not be a war crime. He is a legitimate target, regardless where he chooses to place himself.

If you don't want to be a causality of a superior power targeting you, man the **** up and depose the terrorist hiding amongst you.

Yes, the preferred option isn't a full scale war in the Middle East. The US would rather not have to deal with it. Irrelevant. 07/10 has made it clear to Jewish people they are not safe. Islamists have infiltrated the West.

Absolutely no distinct and historically persecuted people are going to lay down their arms on the pinky promise that the numerically superior enemy are not going to attempt to genocide them for the countless time.

There is a huge misunderstanding about the Middle East. The Middle East is in the middle of a civil war, which is why Saudi Arabia was willing to normalise relations with Israel. SA is petrified of Iran, the Yemen conflict is a proxy war between SA and Iran. Jordan and Egypt wants nothing to do with Palestine. Lebanon wants nothing to do with it but considering Hezbollah, a terrorist organisation controls a sizeable proportion of the country they are being dragged in.

This is what people don't understand, and why Starmer/Sunak and Biden are so 'pro Israel' and anti ceasefire despite public polls. This isn't a isolated to Palestine/Israel. This is a proxy war against Iran control in the region similar to USSR control in the cold war.

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I'm not monopolising jack tulip, I'm saying bombing a place where a tulip ton civilians are present is a ****ed up idea period.

Talk about living in the West and claiming a tulip ton of women and children should be catching a leader of a terrorist organisation to hand him over to IDF to avoid being bombed to ****.

[JustKeepSwimming]

I'm not monopolising jack tulip, I'm saying bombing a place where a tulip ton civilians are present is a ****ed up idea period.

Talk about living in the West and claiming a tulip ton of women and children should be catching a leader of a terrorist organisation to hand him over to IDF to avoid being bombed to ****.

A Government, any Government, has one solemn duty, to protect their citizens no matter the cost.

If Gazan's don't believe that 07/10 is sufficient to rise up against Hamas then I don't know what you expect.

Hamas poses a clear, present and existential threat to Israel. Israel is duty bound to eliminate that threat.

[woody1]

Israel have stated clearly the aim of the war is the complete destruction of Hamas.

Even if they achieve that, they'll have radicalised loads of Palestinians in the process (especially the young who've lost family and friends) and a new bunch of terrorists will emerge hell bent on revenge.

And the cycle of violence will continue.

Unfortunately I can't see there ever being a "Good Friday Agreement" in this neck of the woods. The mutual hatred just runs too deep.

[WTFH]

Unfortunately I can't see there ever being a "Good Friday Agreement" in this neck of the woods. The mutual hatred just runs too deep.

Hatred, external funding and education.
Part of why the GFA worked was because children got a slightly balanced education and met people from "the other side" at school, university and work. When they realised that they had a lot in common and that maybe killing wasn't an intelligent, civilised solution, then things could move forward.
If you keep children separate and they are kept separate, then that generation will struggle to work with others.

[vetran]

Even if they achieve that, they'll have radicalised loads of Palestinians in the process (especially the young who've lost family and friends) and a new bunch of terrorists will emerge hell bent on revenge.

And the cycle of violence will continue.

Unfortunately I can't see there ever being a "Good Friday Agreement" in this neck of the woods. The mutual hatred just runs too deep.

which is probably why no gazans will be allowed back. They will end up in neighbouring countries which Israel can call on to finish terrorism.

When Egypt/Syria etc start attacking Israel will strike back.

[BlueSharp]

Even if they achieve that, they'll have radicalised loads of Palestinians in the process (especially the young who've lost family and friends) and a new bunch of terrorists will emerge hell bent on revenge.

And the cycle of violence will continue.

Unfortunately I can't see there ever being a "Good Friday Agreement" in this neck of the woods. The mutual hatred just runs too deep.

They will be radicalised by Hamas regardless of Israel's actions.

[woody1]

which is probably why no gazans will be allowed back. They will end up in neighbouring countries which Israel can call on to finish terrorism.

Allowed back where? AFAIK, no one has been able to leave Gaza. The border with Egypt is closed.

If Israel wants to depopulate the strip, there's only one way of doing that...

[vetran]

Allowed back where? AFAIK, no one has been able to leave Gaza. The border with Egypt is closed.

If Israel wants to depopulate the strip, there's only one way of doing that...

The Israelis suggested that the Egyptians open Rafah and was clear what was going to happen.

Egypt did not open Rafah apparently they don't want a bunch of terrorists either.