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    Originally posted by Cookielove View Post
    They should not have issued any work visas for IT in the last few years given that our own population cannot find work that covers young and old in the IT/Tech sectors I know so many ...it needed to be stopped long ago but successive govts. wanted cheap labour and now it is an utter mess...

    ONS say 116,000 work visas issued in the year to June 24 will be interesting to see what that figure will be for the year to June 25 ....
    None might have been asking a bit much as I am sure there were genuine skills shortages in there somewhere but there certainly shouldn't have been anywhere near the amount issued and the capability gap then should have been resolved locally through training.

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      Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post

      None might have been asking a bit much as I am sure there were genuine skills shortages in there somewhere but there certainly shouldn't have been anywhere near the amount issued and the capability gap then should have been resolved locally through training.
      Problem is that we need intelligent people working in the UK, not ones that argue that "Year to June" (with no link) is the same as calendar year (with a link) in an attempt to debunk data.
      …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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        Eh if that is a dig at me then get a life...

        It is a quick google if you care to look, I am quoting the ONS data which is widely published figures - not trying to debunk any data the stats speak for themselves, just giving the good old facts!!

        I am quite aware that year to June is different than a calendar year

        ONS record their figures and data to June each year maybe that is beyond your comprehension.

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          They actually release quarterly figures.

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            Does not change the facts that the numbers are way too high...

            More interested in arguing about their reporting timetable than the crux of the issue which is that immigrations is far too high and workers in our sector have been stuffed but this is not new....not by a long way.

            Starmer seems to have woken up that fact as of yesterday with his speech ....probably realising that this will be the key make or break issue at the next election if they last that long....

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              Originally posted by Cookielove View Post
              Does not change the facts that the numbers are way too high...

              More interested in arguing about their reporting timetable than the crux of the issue which is that immigrations is far too high and workers in our sector have been stuffed but this is not new....not by a long way.

              Starmer seems to have woken up that fact as of yesterday with his speech ....probably realising that this will be the key make or break issue at the next election if they last that long....
              OK, we get it, you hate all "immigrants". The issue has been going on for years, with a massive uptick in the last couple of years since Brexit. It didn't suddenly become an issue last summer, even though the Farage Riots might have helped fan the flames.
              In the past it was less of an issue, because good IT contractors in the UK could get lucrative contracts in Europe with ease, and the ones who didn't want to leave the UK could get UK contracts. Now that many of the good contractors are no longer working in Europe, then others are struggling.
              …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                Oh dear!!!

                Utterly pathetic in a word...am not even answering the absurdness of what you have written WTFH so toddle off.
                This is the standard rhetoric that comes out when anyone says we have had too much immigration ...almost £1m in a year ain't sustainable and is way more than anyone in Western Europe ....but don't let get facts get in the way of your insults...

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                  Originally posted by Cookielove View Post
                  Oh dear!!!

                  Utterly pathetic in a word...am not even answering the absurdness of what you have written WTFH so toddle off.
                  This is the standard rhetoric that comes out when anyone says we have had too much immigration ...almost £1m in a year ain't sustainable and is way more than anyone in Western Europe ....but don't let get facts get in the way of your insults...
                  £1m for what?
                  way more what? (i presume you mean far more)

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                    The £ sign was a typo as doing some multi-tasking between work and having a few laughs on here ....!

                    No I meant way more...they are interchangeable phrases one if more informal than the other = same meaning.

                    Way more is "slang" so more fitting for on here I'd say given some are not quite so bright

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                      I think one of the problems with IT, is that we are often looked down upon by management and non-technicals in the UK. They don't see highly skilled IT workers as any different from low skilled IT workers. Not in all cases, but overall I think we have failed to make the case that we are a professional body that is worthy of respect, like say lawyers, doctors, chartered engineers and so on.

                      The cheaper option in the minds of management is simply the better option.

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