801 Migrants cross English Channel in 1 day

[vetran]

Opinions may differ on that interpretation. Not all generalisations are valid, only some are.

Managed and vetted - as in we know who they are. You're forgetting that part.

indeed that is rather important.

[NotAllThere]

Managed and vetted - as in we know who they are. You're forgetting that part.

Strangely though, various studies have found no correlation between immigration (legal or illegal) and criminal activity. Once the illegal migrants have applied for asylum, they're managed and vetted.

[NotAllThere]

The point I was making is yes the boats are killing people but their medieval culture is also killing people. If the European migrants were bringing Blood Eagles or crucifixion to the UK I would be appalled by it to.

Hmm. Medieval. So that includes the Vietnamese, Eritreans, Albanians...

[malvolio]

Hmm. Medieval. So that includes the Vietnamese, Eritreans, Albanians...

I'm not aware that they practice the Honour regime, it's more the Eastern Med, the Middle east and the sub-continent, in the traditionally patriarchal societies. Which finds its roots in the harsh realities of tribes living in the poorer regions of those areas going back a thousand years or more. You will find a lot of it covered in Leviticus, for example.

So "medieval" is entirely appropriate.

[sadkingbilly]

You will find a lot of it covered in Leviticus, for example.

and THAT doesn't wash off easily, I bet!

[willendure]

The only good thing about the high legal immigrations is that it's not killing kids and women.

What a load of bollocks. The legal immigrants are more likely to be stealing your job though, thought about that?

The illegal ones are more likely to be poor and not have qualifications that would enable them to displace me in the labour market. They are also frequently desperate and hard working and will take on jobs that British people consider to be beneath them.

[vetran]

Opinions may differ on that interpretation. Not all generalisations are valid, only some are.

Hmm. Medieval. So that includes the Vietnamese, Eritreans, Albanians...

of course it does. Despite a number of fiction stories time affects everyone.

[vetran]

What a load of bollocks. The legal immigrants are more likely to be stealing your job though, thought about that?

The legal ones will be undercutting locals being paid 80% of the going rate for jobs as per visa conditions so that those poor tax avoiding multinationals can get cheap and biddable labour that they can abuse by holding their visas hostage.

Or they are the politicians and scum bags whose countries only want home to face a firing squad.

The illegal ones are more likely to be poor and not have qualifications that would enable them to displace me in the labour market. They are also frequently desperate and hard working and will take on jobs that British people consider to be beneath them.

No the illegal ones will be involved in crime like those nice Albanians. The Terrorist supporters can be in either camp but there are plenty of them. If they are illegal they probably won't be getting minimum wage or paying tax.

Do please tell us whether each type make a significant contribution to UK PLC?

People have been telling you this with facts and figures for decades.

[malvolio]

What a load of bollocks. The legal immigrants are more likely to be stealing your job though, thought about that?

The illegal ones are more likely to be poor and not have qualifications that would enable them to displace me in the labour market. They are also frequently desperate and hard working and will take on jobs that British people consider to be beneath them.

Do you think I'm as ignorant of reality as you seem to be? I was arguing the point about unlimited skilled immigrants in 2005, along with a lot other people.

The illegals are not taking jobs. It's an over-generous and badly regulated benefits system that's keeping people out of work; why do hard and not very glamorous toil of start t the bottom of the career ladder when you can claim some evanescent mental issues and get paid to stay at home?

[NigelJK]

significant contribution

I know the lefties have the soap box here, but surely 650,000+ people coming in are going to need housing, health, dentistry, education, transport, 'entertainment' etc. I doubt, very much, in the scheme of things that 'significant' is not a word you could apply to either.

The odd thing is when it comes to repairing and building new road infrastructure we get told 'building more roads means putting more cars on the road and therefore we won't do it'. a significant portion of those coming in won't be mobile, but will want to be.