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    Originally posted by TheGreenBastard View Post

    Aah I forgot you're a simpleton, "most Christians believe the Bible is the word of God" - odd, even the Christian Yanks who believe the Bible is the literal word of God are a minority in the US. If the crux of your argument predicates on falsehoods there's not much else to discuss.

    Please provide evidence to back up your claim that Christians who believe the Bible is the word of God are a minority.
    I notice you've added the word "literal" into your argument, which wasn't there previously, so perhaps you're going to rely on moving the goalposts to maintain your belief.
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      Originally posted by WTFH View Post
      Most Christians believe the Bible is the word of God.
      Sloppy reading in my view. Sure 2 Tim 3:16. - but it is Jesus who is the Word of God, not the Bible. At least, Biblically. When it says "The word of God came to Isaiah", it doesn't mean he received a nice leather bound Torah in the post. Trouble is the Bible is referred to so often by preachers as the word of God, that people consider the phrase synonymous with scripture. Which then leads to God the Father, God the Son and God the Bible...

      Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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        Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

        Whose slaughter are you castigating? That of the Israelies or the Palestinians? I'm assuming that this is to what you're alluding given your mention of babies.

        Unfortunately, innocents have died since the dawn of man.
        No, Israel should not be killing Palestinians. But if they are going to reach Hamas and PiJ, among others, who are preventing the civilians from leaving and indeed siting their militia under and between civilians, it is rather unavoidable. But who is to blame. If Israel call a cease fire you can be certain that Hamas won't, but merely reinforce their damaged defences in the lull.

        You are also ascribing a level of truth to Hamas reporting that it perhaps doesn't warrant. They have been bombing Israel civilians for years, after all. Yes, Gaza has been oppressed by Israel, but Hamas have refused any alternative solutions to that other than firing rockets blindly at whoever is in the way.
        Blog? What blog...?

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          Originally posted by WTFH View Post
          But if you're wanting to talk about Islam, do you know the difference between the 5 pillars of Islam (as practiced by Sunni) and the 7 pillars of Islam (Shia)?
          Yeah, 2, any fool know that!
          Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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            https://www.barna.com/research/sotb-2021/

            "Seven in 10 Americans claim a view that regards scripture as the word of God"
            71% is not a minority or fringe.
            …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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              Originally posted by malvolio View Post

              No, Israel should not be killing Palestinians. But if they are going to reach Hamas and PiJ, among others, who are preventing the civilians from leaving and indeed siting their militia under and between civilians, it is rather unavoidable. But who is to blame. If Israel call a cease fire you can be certain that Hamas won't, but merely reinforce their damaged defences in the lull.

              You are also ascribing a level of truth to Hamas reporting that it perhaps doesn't warrant. They have been bombing Israel civilians for years, after all. Yes, Gaza has been oppressed by Israel, but Hamas have refused any alternative solutions to that other than firing rockets blindly at whoever is in the way.
              I haven't mentioned Hamas in this context. I mentioned Palestinians and Israelis. So I am not ascribing anything to anyone. For your information I take Hamas reports with the same large dose of salt as those from the IDF.
              Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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                Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

                Whose slaughter are you castigating? That of the Israelies or the Palestinians? I'm assuming that this is to what you're alluding given your mention of babies.

                Unfortunately, innocents have died since the dawn of man.
                kill (people or animals) in a cruel or violent way, typically in large numbers.
                Israel's reactions to the conflict have been predominantly to preserve life even of those they despise. Explain how they are cruel?

                After years of Hamas and other Arab states lobbing rockets into Israeli civilian targets they built the Iron Dome. They tend not to return fire unless there are military targets available.

                The Gaza strip is tiddly, if the Israelis wanted to turn it to dust it would take them a few hours from the air.

                They have asked Palestinians to evacuate the area for their own safety. They haven't complied and the surrounding Muslim countries have not supplied places of refuge.

                Instead the Israelis are sending in ground troops to winkle out HAMAS terrorists encamped under hospitals. They are willing to risk their soldiers lives to remove Hamas and kill fewer Palestinians.

                If they were genocidal they would just carpet bomb Gaza and be done with it!


                Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                  Originally posted by vetran View Post



                  Israel's reactions to the conflict have been predominantly to preserve life even of those they despise. Explain how they are cruel?

                  After years of Hamas and other Arab states lobbing rockets into Israeli civilian targets they built the Iron Dome. They tend not to return fire unless there are military targets available.

                  The Gaza strip is tiddly, if the Israelis wanted to turn it to dust it would take them a few hours from the air.

                  They have asked Palestinians to evacuate the area for their own safety. They haven't complied and the surrounding Muslim countries have not supplied places of refuge.

                  Instead the Israelis are sending in ground troops to winkle out HAMAS terrorists encamped under hospitals. They are willing to risk their soldiers lives to remove Hamas and kill fewer Palestinians.

                  If they were genocidal they would just carpet bomb Gaza and be done with it!

                  My mistake, I meant to use the word "murder" in response to Malvolio's comment regarding the "murder of babies".
                  I would suggest that "the murder of babies" would be considered cruel and therefore regarded as "slaughter" in your literal sense.
                  Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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                    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                    Please provide evidence to back up your claim that Christians who believe the Bible is the word of God are a minority.
                    I notice you've added the word "literal" into your argument, which wasn't there previously, so perhaps you're going to rely on moving the goalposts to maintain your belief.
                    Gallop polls use the word "literally", in contrast to "inspired by": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_literalism

                    Now I await your counter evidence backing up your initial claim most Christians believe the Bible to be the literal word of God.

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                      Originally posted by Zigenare View Post

                      My mistake, I meant to use the word "murder" in response to Malvolio's comment regarding the "murder of babies".
                      I would suggest that "the murder of babies" would be considered cruel and therefore regarded as "slaughter" in your literal sense.
                      Murder requires intent.

                      Hamas intended to kill babies and little children the IDF I suspect do not have that intent.

                      As I said if the IDF wanted to eradicate HAMAS and the other nutters, the easiest and safest thing is to carpet bomb the strip into dust. They are actively not doing that and putting their soldiers at more risk.
                      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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