[OFFICIAL] Ukraine Thread

[Eirikur]

How do you think this is going to end?

There are recent reports of a growing risk of a coup against Putin by the security services (FSB). Could be a load of bollox but I live in hope that someone in Russia will take him down.

More like wishful thinking by "analysts"
Anyway a coup is likely not going to change anything for the war, it could even get worse

[OwlHoot]

As mad as he is, and as much as he likes to threaten, I just can't see him being allowed by his own people to press any buttons unless Russia itself is invaded. His people, aids etc know that Russia will be wiped off the map if he does this, and ultimately the cronies won't want to die. They're fine sending conscripts to die for them in a foreign field, but they're not going to want to face the risks of dying themselves.

except that if we're to believe what we're told, all his top dogs have already hoofed it off to secure bunkers in some remote mountain range out of harm's way!

[NotAllThere]

More like wishful thinking by "analysts"

Better than defeatist crap from doom-sayers!

[Whorty]

except that if we're to believe what we're told, all his top dogs have already hoofed it off to secure bunkers in some remote mountain range out of harm's way!

Hmmm, do you have a linky to what you're being told (that isn't the Wail or some other such comic)?

[NotAllThere]

Hmmm, do you have a linky to what you're being told (that isn't the Wail or some other such comic)?

I believe it's this one.

[OwlHoot]

Map from pro-Russia web site, as of 2022-03-24



It doesn't seem to have changed much from a similar map a week or so ago, which must be slightly worrying for the Russians

But if the map reflects anything like reality, it would appear that the aim is to extend those two "lobes", roughly in the middle of the map, north to south until they join, and thus cut off eastern Ukraine from resupply.

By the way, I don't have any "agenda" posting this and that. So I won't respond to any sarcastic or dismissive questions or replies by people obviously convinced I have!

[d000hg]

The news suggests Russian advances have totally stalled or even been slightly repulsed the last 1-2 weeks BUT even so there's surely the question how long Ukraine can stand it. Even if their military isn't depleted, Mariupol in particular is described as lacking even basic water supplies with huge numbers basically besieged under constant shelling. The city population is quite literally at risk of starving to death since nobody can get out, and no aid can get in... will Zelensky sacrifice an entire city?

[DealorNoDeal]

I wonder what the West/NATO will do if Putin does resort to using chemical weapons? Other than condemnation, strong words, further sanctions (assuming there are any left to impose)? They must be considering that possibility.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-w...-says-12574304

[AtW]

Biden - "Putin must be removed" (regime change)

Shortly later - the WH is walking it back.

[NotAllThere]

.. will Zelensky Putin sacrifice an entire city?

FTFY.