Immigration or humanitarian crisis?

[FatLazyContractor]

what climb into a dinghy that was carrying twice as many people as it was designed for without lifejackets and with a family who couldn't swim? The alternative was to stay in a safe place in Turkey.

The wife was petrified.

He at this point became an economic migrant. It is tragic but don't miss the fact it wasn't our fault.

We should build & support camps in Turkey.That is our responsibility, we should refuse access to anyone crossing Europe to remove the pull.

+1

Anyone wondered why the peaceful and prosperous nations like Saudi and UAE are mouthshut on this topic?

Aren't they closer geographically and culturally to these "refugees" ? And whatever happened to their religious concept of brotherhood?

[d000hg]

what climb into a dinghy that was carrying twice as many people as it was designed for without lifejackets and with a family who couldn't swim? The alternative was to stay in a safe place in Turkey.

No, cross a border illegally. That's the point that was raised - that they're breaking the law. You're clouding the issue. They don't all cross in the manner you described.

[The Spartan]

They've taken the stance "Well I'm alright Jack" I read somewhere Saudi Arabia have taken in just 65 refugees and UAE 53.

[Gumbo Robot]

+1
And whatever happened to their religious concept of brotherhood?

It doesn't exist there.

Haven't you seen how they treat the Pakistanis?

They only consider other Gulf Arabs as equals.

Then you have the USA followed by other western nations, then other Arab nations eg Egypt but Pakistan is right at the bottom of the pile.

[DodgyAgent]

Yes, correct. What valid points were made apart from the fact I apparently have a 'tiny binary mind' which I don't think is valid otherwise I'd either be a Daily Mail columnist living in the USA or a recruitment agent

Here is one point from Piers Morgan:

They, and millions like them in Syria, aren’t ‘migrants’, as so many ill-informed people on social media seem to think, and as some in mainstream media disingenuously encourage us to think.
They’re not trying to pursue a better economic life for themselves, something which is perfectly acceptable but which should be liable to strict immigration checks and balances.
No, they’re trying to save their lives.

here is one from Littlejohn:

The other distressing image doing the rounds yesterday was the father who lay down on the railway lines in Hungary, clutching his wife and baby, after being refused permission to catch a train bound for Austria and Germany.
This was cited as evidence of the Hungarian government’s ‘heartlessness’ and further proof that Britain must do more for these poor migrants.
You can’t blame Hungary. When they signed up for the EU, they thought they were joining a democratic, free-trade union. They didn’t expect to be cast as a departure lounge for thousands of people who want to get into Europe illegally.


Both are valid points that are worthy of consideration in solving the problem. However your tiny little brain can only understand such problems through a single dimension. It was you who said "Daily Mail, who's right:

One day they'll make their mind up, or at least get proper journalists"


It is not a question of "who's right" and the role of journalists is not to reach a consensus (unless the state controls the media) . Journalists are there to give different perspectives - something that idiots like you cannot cope with,

[BrilloPad]

They've taken the stance "Well I'm alright Jack" I read somewhere Saudi Arabia have taken in just 65 refugees and UAE 53.

And I debt they are being used as slave labour.

I am amazed UAE has not taken in more. Aren't 53 dying each week building world cup stadia?

[vetran]

No, cross a border illegally. That's the point that was raised - that they're breaking the law. You're clouding the issue. They don't all cross in the manner you described.

I am being crystal clear about the issue. They were economic migrants willing to break the law for a better life. Those that wave a tragic picture of the consequences of their illegal activities and demand more should be done are clouding the issue. Brutal yes, but true.

If someone said to me you need to take in an innocent 3 year old otherwise he will die then yes I would. If someone said you must take into your house an adult who has become a citizen by crossing the boarder illegally I probably wouldn't.

I doubt I would cross the boarder from a safe place to an EU country but I haven't walked in his shoes. However I would suggest we stop encouraging them.

[darmstadt]

ah reach for the insults , if you get there you have to realise you have already lost.

something that idiots like you cannot cope with,

WGAS...

[d000hg]

I didn't know we were encouraging them. The official refugees are coming from closer to their home, the camps in Calais are surely being given the message "keep out"?

It does confuse me that the UK is seen as the best place to come to when it's about the furthest away... or is it that we only see the UK issues on UK news and they are queuing to sneak into other nations as well? Or maybe, other nations they just walk into since they don't have a sea in the way, so there is no 'concentration point'?

[DodgyAgent]

I didn't know we were encouraging them. The official refugees are coming from closer to their home, the camps in Calais are surely being given the message "keep out"?

It does confuse me that the UK is seen as the best place to come to when it's about the furthest away... or is it that we only see the UK issues on UK news and they are queuing to sneak into other nations as well? Or maybe, other nations they just walk into since they don't have a sea in the way, so there is no 'concentration point'?

The UK has set up an obstacle course for migrants. If they get through the obstacle course they are allowed to stay. The Saudis on the other hand who are closer to most refugees and therefore easier to get to simply don't let them in or throw them out. Australians are the same.