Magic, HD2 or iPhone ?

[cojak]

Plug it in...Yes it wont power on until you install itunes and plug it in. Yes really.

Then just use the plug that comes with it and plug it straight into the mains...

[TheFaQQer]

Doesnt even play Flash yet does it?

I used to be one that kept on about the "when is flash coming?" for mobile phones. Then I read this blog post which explains exactly WHY you don't really want flash anyway.

Nothing to do with the "it's a resource hog" argument - it's much more simple than that. Since plenty of flash stuff relies on onMouseOver and onClick methods, it just doesn't work with a touch screen! I know Adobe is looking at new stuff to work with touchscreens, but personally I'd rather have the jigsaw piece "missing plugin" than flash that doesn't work properly and needs to be redeveloped to work with a touchscreen.

Edit: This article on osnews is a good recap as well.

<NickFitz>
HTML5 FTW!
</NickFitz>

[stingman123]

I used to be one that kept on about the "when is flash coming?" for mobile phones. Then I read this blog post which explains exactly WHY you don't really want flash anyway.

Nothing to do with the "it's a resource hog" argument - it's much more simple than that. Since plenty of flash stuff relies on onMouseOver and onClick methods, it just doesn't work with a touch screen! I know Adobe is looking at new stuff to work with touchscreens, but personally I'd rather have the jigsaw piece "missing plugin" than flash that doesn't work properly and needs to be redeveloped to work with a touchscreen.

Edit: This article on osnews is a good recap as well.

<NickFitz>
HTML5 FTW!
</NickFitz>

HHHmmmm. odd that! Flash works fine on my HTC!?

[SantaClaus]

HTC Touch Pro 2 rules!

I can't do without it, especially the slide-out keyboard and the GPS.

[Grinder]

HTC Touch Pro 2 rules!

I can't do without it, especially the slide-out keyboard and the GPS.

Finally mine arrives tomorrow after voda sent 2 different phones by mistake - presume they were hoping I'd give up and accept a cheaper phone.

[escapeUK]

Then just use the plug that comes with it and plug it straight into the mains...

Ok. It wont turn on. What do I do now oh iPhone expert.

Iphones dont arrive flat, but they do need activation which has to be done via itunes which will not install on Xp Sp2. Been there, had that problem.

[NickFitz]

I remember reading you used to have to burn a cd from itunes to be able to convert your music to mp3 to play on a player other than an apple one.

Just goes to show, you shouldn't believe any old crap you find on the Internet

[escapeUK]

Just goes to show, you shouldn't believe any old crap you find on the Internet

I applied that to what you said. I know for a fact that music purchased on iTunes would not play on other MP3 players due to DRM without burning it to a CD and then ripping the CD to MP3. Have a look around at all the people looking for how to play the Itune purchases on non apple mp3 players.

but personally I'd rather have the jigsaw piece "missing plugin" than flash that doesn't work properly and needs to be redeveloped to work with a touchscreen.

Really. Id rather have something partially work than not work at all. Thankfully it works very well on HTC.

Flash working very well on the Hero:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuTQD08hYFs

[TheFaQQer]

I applied that to what you said. I know for a fact that music purchased on iTunes would not play on other MP3 players due to DRM without burning it to a CD and then ripping the CD to MP3. Have a look around at all the people looking for how to play the Itune purchases on non apple mp3 players.

DRM protected MP3s bought through iTunes is somewhat different from your suggestion that you "have to burn a cd from itunes to be able to convert your music to mp3 to play on a player other than an apple one." When I used iTunes, I played the MP3s on different players of different manufacturers.

Really. Id rather have something partially work than not work at all. Thankfully it works very well on HTC.

Flash working very well on the Hero:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuTQD08hYFs

So how does it tell the difference between hovering over something and clicking on it? For example, Farmville plenty of context sensitive pop-ups - if I move my mouse over it, the action is completely different from clicking on it.

[NickFitz]

I applied that to what you said. I know for a fact that music purchased on iTunes would not play on other MP3 players due to DRM without burning it to a CD and then ripping the CD to MP3. Have a look around at all the people looking for how to play the Itune purchases on non apple mp3 players.

MP3 players couldn't play iTunes files because they were MP3 players, and the iTunes store uses the more advanced AAC encoding.

DRM was imposed on Apple by the recording industry. Once Apple were in a position of strength in the market they ditched DRM, and the recording industry had to accept that. I'd say Apple have done more than most companies to oppose DRM.