Reply to: Methodology and Methods

[vetran]

I get really annoyed when people say "cleave" when they mean "cleave".

you know what they say

[BlasterBates]

The best way to resolve a dispute on the meaning of words or spelling is the dictionary.


...and there are two meanings of the word methodology

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...20from%20mine.

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1. the system of methods and principles used in a particular discipline


2. the branch of philosophy concerned with the science of method and procedure

Hopefully that has resolved the dispute twice and for all.

[NotAllThere]

Nope. This is a pet peeve of mine.

Others include:

Using inferred when they mean implied.
Saying "Could care less" when they mean "Couldn't care less".
Pedofile when they mean pedorast.

I could go on ...

I get really annoyed when people say "cleave" when they mean "cleave".

[vetran]

So madness can have both a method and a methodology? Inneresting...

of course

[ladymuck]

So madness can have both a method and a methodology? Inneresting...

[suityou01]

Did you mean "paedophile" and "pedarast"?

Always worth checking your own spelling before criticising others malapropisms.

That is what I meant and mispelled. Thank you for putting me right.

[malvolio]

Not quite. ISO 20000 is for service management; ISO 27001 is for security.

Of course. Come on, I've been out of the field for 10 years now...

[Protagoras]

Not quite. ISO 20000 is for service management; ISO 27001 is for security.

They have one thing in comment. They cause me to yawn.

[d000hg]

Well this has livened the forum for a Friday afternoon for sure.

[northernladuk]

Nope. This is a pet peeve of mine.

Others include:

Using inferred when they mean implied.
Saying "Could care less" when they mean "Couldn't care less".
Pedofile when they mean pedorast.

I could go on ...

My other half never uses luminous and illuminous correctly which get my goat.

[Snooky]

Pedofile when they mean pedorast.

Did you mean "paedophile" and "pedarast"?

Always worth checking your own spelling before criticising others malapropisms.

[jamesbrown]

Yes, but it would have pass/fail criteria. Performing perfectly but ending up on Venus for example...

Sure, but that isn't an administrative standard, it's a mission objective. Methodologies can be applied to old and novel problems alike and the presence of administrative standards is not what distinguishes a method from a methodology. The thing that distinguishes a methodology is that it's a collection of methods or techniques applied to a problem or studied in relation to a problem.

[hobnob]

Yes there is an ISO standard for Service Management, ISO 27001 and it successors, but that essentially describes a single implementation which will never meet the needs of any given single client environment.

Not quite. ISO 20000 is for service management; ISO 27001 is for security.

[Protagoras]

Yes, but it would have pass/fail criteria. Performing perfectly but ending up on Venus for example...

+1

"The system has provided the correct output, but the output is not correct"

[cojak]

* Yes there is an ISO standard for Service Management, ISO 27001 and it successors, but that essentially describes a single implementation which will never meet the needs of any given single client environment.

Now there was the biggest waste of money, time and effort I spent in my learning.

A standard neither asked for nor used in the industry after the first couple of years of launch.

Edit: I meant ISO20000.