Reply to: Middle Age Spread

[d000hg]

Yeah, of course it was .

The irony being that you don't get what I suppose these days would be called a meme: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Any_fule_kno

[malvolio]

Yeah, of course it was

I've also found the body measurement data from the electronic scales pretty dodgy. If i do pre and post-run measurements (where i can easily lose 1-2kg in fluids), it can result in fairly significant changes to the body far and visceral fat results it provides.

Well yes, it's measuring fluid content, since there is a lot more fluid in adipose tissue than there is in muscle...

[Paralytic]

You do realise that was deliberate, right?

Yeah, of course it was

I've also found the body measurement data from the electronic scales pretty dodgy. If i do pre and post-run measurements (where i can easily lose 1-2kg in fluids), it can result in fairly significant changes to the body fat and visceral fat results it provides.

[d000hg]

Oh, the irony

You do realise that was deliberate, right?

A simple pinch test for subcutaneous fat is more accurate an assessment of obesity. If you want to be a little more scientific, you can buy a set of scales that can measure overall boy fat content, which will catch the visceral adipose tissue that is the real problem.

But just measuring your height and weight is simpler still. It only needs to be good enough.

[Paralytic]

any fule can do

Oh, the irony

(but yes, BPM is a useful indicator for 99+% of the population)

[malvolio]

BMI isn't a nonsense measurement. As a gross tool to quickly flag people who may have issues, it is easy and quick. Most with high BMI are not semi-pro sportspeople or body builders or suffering dwarfism after all.

Getting an accurate body composition report has to be a couple of orders of magnitude more work than measuring your height and weight which any fule can do

A simple pinch test for subcutaneous fat is more accurate an assessment of obesity. If you want to be a little more scientific, you can buy a set of scales that can measure overall boy fat content, which will catch the visceral adipose tissue that is the real problem.

[xoggoth]

Got one of those Weight Watcher body analyser scales, measures BMI, body fat, body water and bone mass. Probably used it about 3 times in 2 years I've had it. Typical.

[d000hg]

BMI isn't a nonsense measurement. As a gross tool to quickly flag people who may have issues, it is easy and quick. Most with high BMI are not semi-pro sportspeople or body builders or suffering dwarfism after all.

Getting an accurate body composition report has to be a couple of orders of magnitude more work than measuring your height and weight which any fule can do

[malvolio]

The researchers should just say that BMI is a tulip measurement, and that if someone has type 2 diabetes they need to lose visceral fat and exercise daily regardless of their weight.

Totally this - BMI is a nonsense measure. Using that as the yardstick, someone like Maro Itoje is grossly obese.

I was under 9 stone at 21, mostly down to not being able to eat properly for a couple of months. I was 13 stone playing county-standard badminton and 16 stone when I could bench press 60 Kgs without straining anything, do three hours kendo without getting out of breath and had a 34 inch waist.

All long gone now, sadly, apart from the 16 stone bit. However my latest set of blood tests put everything, including BP and resting heart rate, well inside normal. OTOH I met someone lately who is a builder in his 50s, 6'3", weighs 13 stone, is a vegetarian and has developed type 2 diabetes...

[Fraidycat]

No point having a nice diagram if you cannot say what app you are using.

Thats just some random app that came with my weighing scales.

I use this one its 12 quid, my wife had a fancy £30 one that sent an electric signal to measure fat % it also came with an app, but it broke, so i got this cheap and cheerful scale for my diet tracking:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[SueEllen]

I have never ever dieted before but i thought i would start one to lose some middle age spread before i turn 50!

Started at 79Kg, 21 days ago, looking to reach 64Kg in a 100 days.. So 15Kg to lose into total.

Im doing a Ketogenic low carb diet. Including 8 hour eating window and 16 hour daily fast. Love the diet. Highly recommend it.
The kind of food allowed is so much better than the junk high carb stuff i was constantly eating just 3 weeks ago!

I think the first few kilos are the easy bit, it is mostly water weight.

And then they say it gets a bit harder and slower.

Currently on day 21, have lost 5Kg so far.

Most of my fat is around my torso and belly and i can definitely notice the difference after 5kg down.

This is from my tracking app:

No point having a nice diagram if you cannot say what app you are using.

[Fraidycat]

I have never ever dieted before but i thought i would start one to lose some middle age spread before i turn 50!

Started at 79Kg, 21 days ago, looking to reach 64Kg in a 100 days.. So 15Kg to lose into total.

Im doing a Ketogenic low carb diet. Including 8 hour eating window and 16 hour daily fast. Love the diet. Highly recommend it.
The kind of food allowed is so much better than the junk high carb stuff i was constantly eating just 3 weeks ago!

I think the first few kilos are the easy bit, it is mostly water weight.

And then they say it gets a bit harder and slower.

Currently on day 21, have lost 5Kg so far.

Most of my fat is around my torso and belly and i can definitely notice the difference after 5kg down.

This is from my tracking app:

[vetran]

W*nking isn't going to help much. Just make your arms look uneven.

I thought you wife had you oing 2 at a time to keep even muscles.

[DoctorStrangelove]

W*nking isn't going to help much. Just make your arms look uneven.

Nonsense.

99 change hands.

Everyone knows that.

Oh.

Did I say that aloud?

[northernladuk]

I think at 21 I still barely weighed much over 9st, I was incredibly skinny. I've filled out with both fat and muscle since then - currently two sizes bigger than I was back then but it should be 1 realistically. Some self-maintenance to do this winter

W*nking isn't going to help much. Just make your arms look uneven.