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    And now we have ‘freelance’ shop workers

    Some retailers are now ‘hiring’ shop workers on a freelance basis… bonkers…

    https://www.theguardian.com/business...ristmas-unions

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    some retailers are now hiring gig workers, who are not covered by most employment protections, as they are deemed in law to be their own boss.
    Hmm. If sole traders, then HMRC come to the employer for tax. If ltd, then IR35 applies with liability on the employer.
    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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      #3
      With all the AI pinching jobs expect IT workers will soon be going round knocking on doors offering to fix computer problems.
      bloggoth

      If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
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        #4
        Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
        With all the AI pinching jobs expect IT workers will soon be going round knocking on doors offering to fix computer problems.
        I'd like to see AI write the software to integrate native support for HTTP3/QUIC into my middleware platform, AI is nowhere near capable enough to produce original stuff as its written to simply rehash existing stuff and doesn't understand context beyond its limited vision

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          #5
          Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
          Hmm. If sole traders, then HMRC come to the employer for tax. If ltd, then IR35 applies with liability on the employer.
          Quite, its simply a way to avoid the costs of employing someone but it wont work because of IR35 and such like legislation.

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            #6
            they are going to love it when they end up in a brolly and just about min wage!
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              #7
              By my calculation:

              If the same shop only employs the same student one day a week then no employer NICs would be due because below the employer NIC threshold. The student then works a different shop the other days.

              If the student is working less than 1000 hours a year in total for 12ph then no tax is due either.

              So if HMRC attacks the shop/employer nothing will be due from them as long as they stick below the thresholds?
              Last edited by Fraidycat; 15 December 2024, 18:42.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post
                By my calculation:

                If the same shop only employs the same student one day a week then no employer NICs would be due because below the employer NIC threshold. The student then works a different shop the other days.

                If the student is working less than 1000 hours a year in total for 12ph then no tax is due either.

                So if HMRC attacks the shop/employer nothing will be due from them as long as they stick below the thresholds?
                Except IR35 kept getting strengthened to encourage companies to ensure everyone was PAYE. That's going to be the case here because £12 an hour on a gig app isn't minimum wage once you take into account holiday pay..
                merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by xoggoth View Post
                  With all the AI pinching jobs expect IT workers will soon be going round knocking on doors offering to fix computer problems.
                  What's the HMRC ruling on "Palm Reading" (VBNB44500 - Specific issues: Religious services)?
                  Are "Lucky Heather" and "Clothes Pegs" VAT exempt?

                  Just might have a "Side Hussle" for 'er indoors!
                  Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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