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Just because the Agency is doing things wrong doesn't mean that Paystream are doing things wrong. VAT charged on top of VAT is exactly what should happen on a hotel bill if you follow HMRC rules exactly.

If an agency is based in the UK then VAT should be charged on top of expenses unless...

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They make a profit when you are working (because you pay a lower fee when you aren't working).

Or going forward - they might be providing an additional service (i.e. umbrella payroll) for free when your limited company isn't earning money....

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moving threads is broken.

The issue is that if your accountant is an MSC the person paying the bill isn't your accountant it is you - all work done while you were with your accountant would be treated as inside IR35 with appropriate Income Tax and NI payments required for everything you...

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You are probably party to a different issue - multinationals remember what happened with the IRS back in the 1980-2005 and corporate memories are very long when the costs and pain are massive....

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It's very hard to pretend a project management contract is outside when you have employees doing the exact same job.

Developers always have the "we need a very specific skill" get out clause that doesn't exist for things that companies do do on a day to day basis....

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That’s really not a plus given HMRC’s new focus on attacking accountants that specialise in contractors and what is happpening at Churchill knight and Boox. https://forums.contractoruk.com/hmrc...-companies.htm...

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Santander - and that's a lot of skillset for not very much money......

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Stood over means you are waiting for the results of another case see https://questions-statements.parliam...20is%20decided.



I would seek advice from whoever is advising...

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Why? It doesn't solve the tax issue because - once again

HMRC's viewpoint - everyone has a permanent base if the company has a permanent office.

Were the client to be paying for it directly it is still something on which tax needs to be paid....

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HMRC's viewpoint - everyone has a permanent base if the company has a permanent office.

Years ago I would have suggested your solution - nowadays I'm not sure it works......

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Becomes a benefit in kind for which tax would still need to be paid.

The simple fact is that HMRC regards every contract via an umbrella company as a unique piece of "permanent" employment with the end client (not the umbrella).

And all of those pieces of "permanent"...

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That gibberish is in the contract?...

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not really you didn’t mention the downsides attached to MVLing your company - which was the OP’s question.

I covered that first then highlighted other options and the factors that my influence the decision...

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Once again you are talking total codswallop.

To the OP - to answer you question switched to employed employment is not carrying on the same trade as a consultant - you have become an employee.

Which leaves the all important question of are you likely to return to the trade...

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He may have to return to contracting - which could mean that he returned here ...

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Well that's a complete rewrite from what was there before.

And it has points that could be easily answered within it - mainly that HMRC can look at later years but they can't go back beyond 2017/18 and cannot now raise fresh cases for 2017/18,...

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Given that it's on my mind and this seems an appropriate thread to put down thoughts

The clause that would have been used to cover your journey to the office comes from EIM32132 - Travel expenses: travel for necessary attendance: fixed term appointments and agency workers: fixed term appointments:...

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It’s also probably worth saying that the Exchequer Solutions tribunal will be playing on umbrella firms minds see https://www.computerweekly.com/news/...paid-tax?amp=1

anything that looks like a regular...

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I will say that I don’t see anyway that won’t result in a lot disappearing in tax because as HMRC admit they are being a whole lot awkward about home bases post Covid (well actually post April 2016 for umbrella firms).

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Just googled better than you - last time I dealt with anything housing and legal was in 2001....