72% of Turkeys vote for Hamas

[WTFH]

I specifically wasn't blaming Islam but the region is very much divided in Arab minds on religious grounds.

Ah, it's only "Arabs" that think there is religious division in the region, and there was me thinking that most of the world saw religious division in it.

[malvolio]

Ah, it's only "Arabs" that think there is religious division in the region, and there was me thinking that most of the world saw religious division in it.

Way more complicated than that. The basic driver to the conflict is that they (and we) all worship the same God, the debate is over which prophet and which variation of their teachings you choose to follow, what your view on heretics is like and to what degree you address that view. Some, clearly, are still in the 13th Century, others are more tolerant - regardless of professed religion.

[WTFH]

Way more complicated than that. The basic driver to the conflict is that they (and we) all worship the same God, the debate is over which prophet and which variation of their teachings you choose to follow, what your view on heretics is like and to what degree you address that view. Some, clearly, are still in the 13th Century, others are more tolerant - regardless of professed religion.

Exactly.

[NotAllThere]

Way more complicated than that. The basic driver to the conflict is that they (and we) all worship the same God

So it is claimed. But not all of us believe that.

[malvolio]

So it is claimed. But not all of us believe that.

I think you will find that is a common factor across all the Abrahamic religions though. Other pantheons are available.

[vetran]

Ah, it's only "Arabs" that think there is religious division in the region, and there was me thinking that most of the world saw religious division in it.

Well Israel has a pretty relaxed attitude to Arab citizens, that is most definitely not reciprocated in Arab lands. Try having a look how many Jews are left in the surrounding Arab countries.

Before departing the Gaza strip in 2005 Israel removed every jew knowing they would likely be killed by Hamas etc.

There is also a religious division, Hamas also hate Christians, many Arabic states actively discriminate based on religion.

My point its not just a Muslim -> jew hatred its also an Arab -> jew hate.

[Zigenare]

Well Israel has a pretty relaxed attitude to Arab citizens, that is most definitely not reciprocated in Arab lands. Try having a look how many Jews are left in the surrounding Arab countries.

Before departing the Gaza strip in 2005 Israel removed every jew knowing they would likely be killed by Hamas etc.

There is also a religious division, Hamas also hate Christians, many Arabic states actively discriminate based on religion.

My point its not just a Muslim -> jew hatred its also an Arab -> jew hate.

Concentrating instead on the illegal occupation of lands in the West Bank.