[OFFICIAL] Ukraine Thread

[vetran]

Ah, a labour party member

FTFY

[Whorty]

Yeah this seemed an odd development. Initially I assumed it was Russian trickery but if Ukraine really did launch their own attack on Russia, that's worrying.

I find it ironic that the Ruskies are upset that Ukraine has launched an attack on them (assuming it's true, that hasn't been verified by anyone yet), given they invaded their country. If it wasn't for the nukes and chemical weapons Russia would be a totally pathetic armed nation.

[SueEllen]

I find it ironic that the Ruskies are upset that Ukraine has launched an attack on them (assuming it's true, that hasn't been verified by anyone yet), given they invaded their country. If it wasn't for the nukes and chemical weapons Russia would be a totally pathetic armed nation.

But...but... but... according to the Putin brain-washed Russian population it is a special operation not a war which the Ukrainians, who aren't an independent nation, welcome unless they are Jewish Nazis.

[DoctorStrangelove]

I see, with some slight degree of schadenfreude, that digging trenches in the Red Forest, raising dust by driving tanks about & generally fecking about around Chernobyl has proved less than wise.

Allegedly one dead from radiation.

Apparently Russians are unaware that the place blew up in 1986.

[SueEllen]

I see, with some slight degree of schadenfreude, that digging trenches in the Red Forest, raising dust by driving tanks about & generally fecking about around Chernobyl has proved less than wise.

Allegedly one dead from radiation.

Apparently Russians are unaware that the place blew up in 1986.

The Russian population don't be seem hot on humanities like history and geography.

[AtW]

A knight is sworn to valour
His heart knows only virtue
His blade defends the helpless
His might upholds the weak
His word speaks only truth
His wrath undoes the wicked.

[d000hg]

The Russian population don't be seem hot on humanities like history and geography.

I think they teach it, it just isn't quite the same as ours

[Whorty]

I think they teach it, it just isn't quite the same as ours

[OwlHoot]

I see, with some slight degree of schadenfreude, that digging trenches in the Red Forest, raising dust by driving tanks about & generally fecking about around Chernobyl has proved less than wise.

Allegedly one dead from radiation.

Apparently Russians are unaware that the place blew up in 1986.

2022-04-07 Chornobyl radiation spikes are not due to military vehicles disturbing soil

Note that the authors are all based at British institutions, and presumably are British and with no reason to support or promote any Russian narrative.

On 25th February 2022, increased gamma radiation dose rates were reported within the Chornobyl
Exclusion Zone (CEZ). This coincided with Russian military vehicles entering the Ukrainian part of the
CEZ from neighbouring Belarus. It was speculated that contaminated soil resuspension by vehicle
movements or a leak from the Chornobyl Nuclear Power Plant (ChNPP) complex may explain these
spikes in radiation dose rates.

The gamma dose rate monitoring network in the CEZ provides a
crucial early warning system for releases of radioactivity to the environment and is part of the
international safeguards for nuclear facilities. With the potential for further military action in the
CEZ and concerns over nuclear safety, it is essential that such anomalous readings are investigated.
We evaluate the hypotheses suggested to explain the apparent gamma dose rate increases,
demonstrating that neither military vehicle-induced soil resuspension nor a leak from the ChNPP are
plausible. However, disruption of the Chornobyl base-station’s reception of wireless signals from the
CRMS network may potentially explain the dose rate increases recorded.

The paper doesn't mention anything about Russians digging trenches. So make of it what you will.

FWIW, my take has been from the outset that much of what we hear from both sides is a load of manipulated fake news bollox.

[vetran]

I think they teach it, it just isn't quite the same as ours

Its not the population its the government.

Plenty of Russian authors protested many of them ended up in Gulags.