• Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
  • Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!

[OFFICIAL] Ukraine Thread

Collapse
X
  •  
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Oops!

    Putin best send them to Siberia.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tan-worse.html
    Putin’s war on freedom of expression in Russia appeared to be fraying at the edges on Thursday after guests on Kremlin-backed TV defied Moscow and openly criticised the brutal conflict in Ukraine, calling the invasion ‘even worse than Afghanistan’.

    Guests have refused to support the narrative pushed through by television hosts on Putin’s request that Russia has been conducting a ‘special operation’ to ‘demilitarise’ and ‘de-Nazify’ Ukraine – claims dismissed as baseless pretexts by Kyiv and her partners in the West.

    One who appeared on one of Russia 1’s prime time talk show rebelled by referring to the USSR’s disastrous invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 which ended in withdrawal ten years later.

    Historians argue that Moscow’s failure in that war, in which thousands of Red Army troops were killed, fuelled disillusionment among millions of people in the Soviet Union and ultimately helped to bring about the collapse of the ‘Evil Empire’ in 1991.

    Putin’s ‘propagandist-in-chief’ Vladimir Soloviev, who has been sanctioned by the EU, was forced to interrupt Semyond Bagdasarov after the academic told him: ‘Do we need to get into another Afghanistan, but even worse?’. He said that in Ukraine ‘there are more people and they’re more advanced in their weapon handling’, before adding: ‘We don’t need that. Enough already.’

    Speaking during a broadcast on Russia 1 earlier, Karen Shakhnazarov, a filmmaker and state pundit, said the conflict in Ukraine risked isolating Russia.

    He told Mr Soloviyev: ‘I have a hard time imagining taking cities such as Kyiv. I can’t imagine how that would look.’ The filmmaker went on to demand an end to the war, declaring: ‘If this picture starts to transform into an absolute humanitarian disaster, even our close allies like China and India will be forced to distance themselves from us.

    ‘This public opinion, with which they’re saturating the entire world, can play out badly for us... Ending this operation will stabilise things within the country.’
    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

    Comment


      On a more serious note Russia is doing another false flag so they can use chemical weapons on Ukrainians as the invasion isn't going how Putin wants.
      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

      Comment


        Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
        On a more serious note Russia is doing another false flag so they can use chemical weapons on Ukrainians as the invasion isn't going how Putin wants.
        If some idiot in the US decides that the use of chemical weapons is a red line for NATO to join in then Zelensky, or some rogue Ukrainian, will be sorely tempted to use them as a false flag operation for the Russians to be blamed and for NATO to pile in.

        Remember, these guys are desperate, and even if they would baulk at that there are plenty of maniacs, in the US especially, spoiling for a full-on confrontation with Russia and ready to encourage them or even do it on their behalf.
        Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ here

        Comment


          Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
          there are plenty of maniacs, in the US especially, spoiling for a full-on confrontation with Russia and ready to encourage them or even do it on their behalf.
          Most of the gun-totin types are staunchly isolationist in their views. They want America to get out of international affairs and working on the MAGA project.
          Originally posted by MaryPoppins
          I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
          Originally posted by vetran
          Urine is quite nourishing

          Comment


            Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post

            If some idiot in the US decides that the use of chemical weapons is a red line for NATO to join in then Zelensky, or some rogue Ukrainian, will be sorely tempted to use them as a false flag operation for the Russians to be blamed and for NATO to pile in.


            The US has been notifying the rest of the world of Russia's false flags. This is why AtW and others were saying that Russia was about to invade Ukraine with certainty on the date.



            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

            Comment


              What Russia planned in Ireland

              https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/20...sh-government/

              </snip>
              The Minister for Housing is not routinely involved in matters of national security, so it was unusual when Eoghan Murphy was called to a top-secret briefing with senior defence and security officials.

              At the briefing, it was explained to the then-minister that a planned expansion of the Russian Embassy on Dublin's Orwell Road needed to be stopped.

              Planning permission had been granted by Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown County Council in 2015, but a closer look at the proposals had raised red flags. The Government had recently passed legislation allowing it to block applications on national security grounds – so it fell to the Housing Minister to act.

              On 4 March, just days after Ireland reported its first case of Covid-19, Minister Murphy quietly signed an order revoking part of the embassy’s planning permission.

              The development was, according to the order, "likely to be harmful to the security and defence of the State and the State’s relations with other states".
              </snip>
              The embassy applied to expand its footprint on its Orwell Road site to four times its existing size. In addition to two new accommodation blocks, an underground car park, ESB substation and water storage tanks, a major extension was planned to the embassy building itself. The three-storey development was a particular concern to the security officials.

              "The Russians wanted to build a major compound with a major, underground subterranean complex," Cathal Berry TD, a former Army Ranger officer, told Prime Time.

              That’s despite the 5.5 acre site having "plenty of room" to build above ground.

              The basement, which was labeled on the planning application for storage and plant use, looked more like a "nerve centre" of the operation, according to Mr Berry.

              "There's 20 storage rooms, ten power plant rooms, and four rooms with no description, which are called voids. The plans also included the provision of 13 toilets in the basement, which is considered unusual for a storage area."


              "You could have the GRU, which is the Russian military intelligence, or the SVR, which is their foreign intelligence service, operating underground," Mr Berry explained.

              Security sources were worried the subterranean area was ideal for storing computer servers potentially for use in data mining, troll farming and launching so-called "influence" operations.
              </snip>

              New figures released to Prime Time show there will be no shortage of staff to occupy the buildings. Russia has the second-largest number of embassy staff in Ireland, with 30 Russians accredited to the diplomatic mission. Only the USA has more accredited embassy staff, with 37.
              </snip>
              "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

              Comment


                Approximately 200 miles (as the crow flies) between Orwell Road, Dublin and GCHQ in Cheltenham, which I am sure the Ruskies were well aware.

                qh
                He had a negative bluety on a quackhandle and was quadraspazzed on a lifeglug.

                I look forward to your all knowing and likely sarcastic and unhelpful reply.

                Comment


                  Originally posted by SueEllen View Post


                  The US has been notifying the rest of the world of Russia's false flags. This is why AtW and others were saying that Russia was about to invade Ukraine with certainty on the date.


                  If I recall AtW was very certain of the date. Several times.
                  Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                  I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                  Originally posted by vetran
                  Urine is quite nourishing

                  Comment


                    Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post

                    If some idiot in the US decides that the use of chemical weapons is a red line for NATO to join in then Zelensky, or some rogue Ukrainian, will be sorely tempted to use them as a false flag operation for the Russians to be blamed and for NATO to pile in.

                    Remember, these guys are desperate, and even if they would baulk at that there are plenty of maniacs, in the US especially, spoiling for a full-on confrontation with Russia and ready to encourage them or even do it on their behalf.
                    Yes, you're right ... if chemical weapons are used it will be by the Ukraine, all their fault for being a sovereign state, blah blah blah

                    Change the record fella, you're a dick
                    I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

                    Comment


                      Anyone want a Ukrainian? Boris Johnson ... said an upcoming scheme will allow Britons to take Ukrainians into their homes.

                      How do you pick which one you want? Is the web-portal going to be a joint project between GovUK and Tindr?
                      Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                      I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                      Originally posted by vetran
                      Urine is quite nourishing

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X