The best way to illustrate to HMRC what Lack of Moo means

[NigelJK]

(Read it yesterday) I particularly liked the bit about not working their notice ...

[MrMarkyMark]

Haven't you read Tolley's IR 35 Defence Strategies? Haven't you read HMRC's Employment Status Manual?

Are you cut out to be a contractor?

Here's a piece about MOO for BrilloPad and everybody else who doesn't know:

IR35: Mutuality of Obligation: what it is and what it is not :: Contractor UK

Outside of the legal profession, the phrase "absence of Mutuality of Obligation" is now often used to mean something like "the absence of any obligation to provide and do further work when the current (relatively short term) piece of work which the worker is obliged to complete has come to an end"

Great link.

Obviously it would help if you had a Scooby as to what it actually means

[vetran]

They'll have a Press Gang waiting outside the next CUK Christmas do, coshing people as they leave and hauling them off to permiedom in the Civil Service

Think what NLYUK would do for the King's Shilling.

[malvolio]

Think what NYUK would do for the King's Shilling.

Ask his accountant what to do with it?

[d000hg]

Has anyone here ever worked with HMRC (contractor or permie)? I would've thought it's not uninteresting work.

[motoukenin]

Has anyone here ever worked with HMRC (contractor or permie)? I would've thought it's not uninteresting work.

Yes, same as most Gov contracts except it takes an absolute age to get in through the front door due to the excessive security.

[malvolio]

Yes, same as most Gov contracts except it takes an absolute age to get in through the front door due to the excessive security.

It's a way in for someone who effectively knows nothing outside a home PC (i.e. 90% of school and Uni leavers...). A few more people offering (and taking on) such roles would eventually kill off the "skills shortage".

[EDIT] Ermm.... - Ignore me. Wrong thread.

[swamp]

Has anyone here ever worked with HMRC (contractor or permie)? I would've thought it's not uninteresting work.

Never worked there but their code is in public domain: https://github.com/hmrc

Most of their stuff is Scala which should make finding replacement developers quite tricky.

[ChimpMaster]

All in, this is wonderful news because it means that HMRC's systems will be a shambles for many years to come. Hopefully it'll slow them down in pestering the workforce and trying to implement the government's increasingly desperate and poorly thought out tax raids.

[d000hg]

All in, this is wonderful news because it means that HMRC's systems will be a shambles for many years to come. Hopefully it'll slow them down in pestering the workforce and trying to implement the government's increasingly desperate and poorly thought out tax raids.

It'll also mean mistakes are more likely and getting them rectified takes longer.