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The best way to illustrate to HMRC what Lack of Moo means

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    #11
    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Shirley HMRC had to do this, otherwise they'd be accused of hypocrisy. They'll just hire more permies which is probably how the public sector should operate. The high levels of contractors they use is worrying really... bad organisation. Contractors should fill the gaps, not be the bulk of your workforce.
    But all the permies left to be contractors, so there are no permies.
    First Law of Contracting: Only the strong survive

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      #12
      Originally posted by d000hg View Post
      Shirley HMRC had to do this, otherwise they'd be accused of hypocrisy. They'll just hire more permies which is probably how the public sector should operate. The high levels of contractors they use is worrying really... bad organisation. Contractors should fill the gaps, not be the bulk of your workforce.
      They'll have a Press Gang waiting outside the next CUK Christmas do, coshing people as they leave and hauling them off to permiedom in the Civil Service

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        #13
        Originally posted by _V_ View Post
        But all the permies left to be contractors, so there are no permies.
        HMRC likely started it first by making redundant their older more expensive workers. Others who had marketable skills seeing the threat of redundancy with a tulip pay off would then leave.
        "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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          #14
          Originally posted by RetSet View Post
          "You're caught".

          "No we're not. No MOO, you see. We're fecking off right now..."
          Erm... What has MoO got to do with it?
          'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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            #15
            Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
            Erm... What has MoO got to do with it?
            So its not just me who did not understand. Phew......

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              #16
              Have Cr4pita taken over yet?

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                #17
                Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                Erm... What has MoO got to do with it?
                Haven't you read Tolley's IR 35 Defence Strategies? Haven't you read HMRC's Employment Status Manual?

                Are you cut out to be a contractor?

                Here's a piece about MOO for BrilloPad and everybody else who doesn't know:

                IR35: Mutuality of Obligation: what it is and what it is not :: Contractor UK

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  Erm... What has MoO got to do with it?
                  Absolutely nothing, but I didn't want to spoil his fun. It's still a good story though.
                  His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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                    #19
                    Won't they just use this as an excuse to get in a consultancy firm and hire a load of Indians?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by woohoo View Post
                      Won't they just use this as an excuse to get in a consultancy firm and hire a load of Indians?
                      Of course they will, and they'll end up with a giant clustershag. And nobody will be willing to help dig them out of it. A scenario which will of course be widely repeated across the public sector. What's the betting they blame brexit...
                      His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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