So thickos support Brexit and the more intelligent support staying in

[oracleslave]

Manufacturing, really?
We're crap at that,

It's all relative. We're not Germany - but it's not as dire as often portrayed.

"Contrary to common belief, UK manufacturing is strong with the UK currently the 11th largest manufacturing nation in the world. Manufacturing makes up 11% of UK GVA and 54% of UK exports and directly employs 2.6 million people."

Link

[Chuck]

Manufacturing, really?
We're crap at that, that's we have a trade deficit unlike Germany.
Nearly all car companies are foreign.
I guess that's my point, the others you mention, except tourism, require brains and so only benefit those of the population on the right side of the Gaussian curve.
What's our hypothetical thicko to do?

You could group engineering, bio-sciences, technology, aerospace as sub-classes of manufacturing.

We aren't crap at it at all, we are excellent at high-tech engineering/manufacturing. We can't compete on the hugely labour intensive manufacturing, but for cutting edge stuff, we can be world beaters.

[xoggoth]

Oh no. The twat's back! Comment immediately parotted by the usual person I see.

Nice to have proper discussion without all this name calling, cretin, thicko etc. Have to remember to log in immediately on viewing UK so the ignore lists works.

[seanraaron]

You could group engineering, bio-sciences, technology, aerospace as sub-classes of manufacturing.

We aren't crap at it at all, we are excellent at high-tech engineering/manufacturing. We can't compete on the hugely labour intensive manufacturing, but for cutting edge stuff, we can be world beaters.

But we're not because the EU is holding us back, right?

[sasguru]

Oh no. The twat's back! Comment immediately parotted by the usual person I see.

Nice to have proper discussion without all this name calling, cretin, thicko etc. Have to remember to log in immediately on viewing UK so the ignore lists works.

Hey nice to see you too grandad. Still as senile and incapable of grasping the point as ever I see

[tomtomagain]

America is desperate for the UK to keep nukes on our shores.

I don't think there are any US nuclear weapons in the UK any more.

[seanraaron]

I don't think there are any US nuclear weapons in the UK any more.

True, LM makes the delivery system (missiles) not the devices. I have no doubt Lockheed Martin will still be in the market for billions of UK taxpayers money regardless of whether or not the UK is an EU member.

[BlasterBates]

Interesting viewpoint

The real danger of Brexit | The Economist

So Brexit could trigger a severe weakening of the West generally

Armageddon with knobs on

[seanraaron]

Interesting viewpoint

The real danger of Brexit | The Economist

So Brexit could trigger a severe weakening of the West generally

Armageddon with knobs on

The point about the EU size is worthwhile. People seem to forget the EU was a lot smaller when the EEA agreements were made with Switzerland and Norway. You really think the newer members who you want to stop emigrating here are going to agree to a deal that allows the UK to block migrants from their countries?

Anyway, lay off the hash and check out some reality before voting. Your children and their children will thank you.

[Flashman]

Once we left the EU, we'd be an isolated country, one with no influence at all. All we'd be left with is membership of these handful of international organisations....