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Contractor with 2 IR35 Contracts

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    #31
    Originally posted by css_jay99 View Post

    Just curious, will 2 contracts via same umbrella resolve the tax issue?
    Without knowing all the details, yes it should resolve the D0/D1 tax code, but we're not being given the information to say for certain.
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      #32
      Originally posted by SSD13 View Post
      I have no insurance as it is with the Umbrella Company I am working through
      And if either of your employers are sued due to you not delivering the service you're contracted to provide via them, what do you think they'll try to do?

      I notice you've not actually said if both clients are aware of you working for the other, or if your contracts (and, ultimately, the ones signed by the clients you're doing the work for) allow that. Again, it's very unlikely that anything bad will happen, but it's good to be aware of the risk.
      Last edited by Paralytic; 29 July 2022, 15:16.

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        #33
        Originally posted by SSD13 View Post

        Do other individuals work 2 Inside IR35 roles concurrently?

        Thanks again
        No. Nearly every inside contract wants a bum on a seat to be told what to do for 8 hours. You cannot run these together as you'd be breaching both contracts doing work on the other clients time. A vast majority will dictate working times or hours per day and not putting your sole effort in to that contact is breach and taking the piss. You are getting away with it because the client can't see, nothing more.

        Outside (sometimes) you can as you deliver a solution without an interference from the client in theory. That theory very rarely pans out though.

        Inside gigs are just not designed to be run concurrently.
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          #34
          For remote software development/coding type contracts, be it inside/outside/perm, there is need to be coding fixed hours. You only need to available for fixed time meetings like daily standup. Also need to be available to answer urgent messages from your team.

          But the coding work, which is majority of what you do, can be done out of hours, unless you are doing pair programming, no one really cares when you do your solo coding, be it 9pm or 9 am. Just as long as it gets done well..

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            #35
            Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post
            For remote software development/coding type contracts, be it inside/outside/perm, there is need to be coding fixed hours. You only need to available for fixed time meetings like daily standup. Also need to be available to answer urgent messages from your team.

            But the coding work, which is majority of what you do, can be done out of hours, unless you are doing pair programming, no one really cares when you do your solo coding, be it 9pm or 9 am. Just as long as it gets done well..
            For outside maybe. The whole point the gig is inside is likely because they want to operate direction and control, so they do care. And if they are paying a day that is stipulated in the contract they want that time working.

            To be able to do two inside gigs in a day means you can either work 16 hours or you'll only be giving each client half the time they are paying for. If it's the latter then it's not right by the contract and is taking the piss.

            I get some stuff can be done quicker at times but in half the time? Over a 3 or 6 month contract? Something is wrong if you can do that. Sit down with the client at the end of the contract and say actually it's only taken me 50% of my time and see if they are happy with that.
            Last edited by northernladuk; 30 July 2022, 00:37.
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              #36
              We are seeing people ask about working 2 inside contracts at once this year, but they are new contractors. No experienced contractor has owned up to doing this (with inside contracts).

              As far as I can see, it’s like working 2 permanent jobs at once where they expect you to be in two separate places, working on 2 separate projects at the same time.

              I imagine that sooner or later they’ll get found out, but I know that I couldn’t cope with the stress of commercial bigamy.
              "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
              - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                #37
                Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post
                For remote software development/coding type contracts, be it inside/outside/perm, there is need to be coding fixed hours.
                I think you missed a word there - did you mean "no need to be coding fixed hours"?
                (Not trying to nitpick typos, but this one changes the meaning of your sentence.)

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by hobnob View Post

                  I think you missed a word there - did you mean "no need to be coding fixed hours"?
                  (Not trying to nitpick typos, but this one changes the meaning of your sentence.)
                  For inside gigs he was spot on
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

                    For inside gigs he was spot on
                    I would argue that the OP needs to read his contract(s) fully and carefully. They may include something about dedicating your effort full time to the completion of the task in hand and expected hours of work, including when they apply.

                    I also assume he is using his clients' infrastructure at some level, which potentially imposes other requirements on things such as hours of access, possibly through their Computer Usage policies. I also rather doubt he is coding their work on his own computers - one per client - and has an air gap between the two.

                    But what do I know about remote working and system security policies...
                    Blog? What blog...?

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                      #40
                      I have two laptops in use and have daily stand ups then the rest of the day it is requirements gathering and documentation and any database changes as necessary

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