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    Originally posted by quackhandle View Post
    Applied for permy roles but they are like pulling my own teeth.

    2 interviews and one of those bulltulip psychometric test (never done one before), then in final int they say this question around five times: "what would you do if you received no help on the project?"

    Spidey-sense off the scale, I'd be walking into a tulipshow and no help provided. When you are in an outside gig, that's fine as you get paid for all work, however I can see the email/voice now: "We expect you to go the extra mile."

    Not for the salary you are offering, bub.

    Just tell them what they want to hear. And lay it on thick.

    What you say in the interview and what you actually do on the job are not the same.

    After the initial probation period and you have shown them how amazing you are, then you can put your feet up (on remote days anyway).

    I am currently a permie and fully remote, and embarrassed to say how little I work compared to when I was a contractor as there is

    1) no renewal to work for

    2) the take home pay is about half what I was getting as a contractor, so I put in about half the effort (actually is more like one quarter if I'm honest ).

    I have gotten good at always acting very busy and stretching out work that would take a day into a week.

    I was always a 4x developer, so even if I put in a quarter of the effort I used to do, it is still the same output as an average developer. I have worked with developers who have been even more productive than me, I would call them 6x developers. I have never met a 10x developer but I am sure they are out there.
    Last edited by Fraidycat; 10 September 2025, 15:32.

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      Originally posted by Dorkeaux View Post

      I've posted about my only permie interview ever.. not for me. Good on you for trying it on, I couldn't do it.
      In addition to my massively inappropriate gabbling, the HR doofus actually asked me "If you were a bug, what sort of bug would you be?"
      A fly because I enjoy dealing with sh....

      A spider so I could lure you into my web and eat you...

      A dragonfly as I only bite if severely provoked...

      No?

      (Think I watched too much Blind Date as a kid)
      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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        Originally posted by oliverson View Post

        Maybe because I'm getting old... I just don't suffer fools gladly.
        This.


        Life is too short to be dealing with dickheads.

        qh
        He had a negative bluety on a quackhandle and was quadraspazzed on a lifeglug.

        I look forward to your all knowing and likely sarcastic and unhelpful reply.

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          Originally posted by Dorkeaux View Post

          I've posted about my only permie interview ever.. not for me. Good on you for trying it on, I couldn't do it.
          In addition to my massively inappropriate gabbling, the HR doofus actually asked me "If you were a bug, what sort of bug would you be?"
          I wasn't cool about it, I gawped at him for a second then told him what an irrelevent question it was for a technical interview..
          I'd probably be a memory leak because I've got the brains of a sieve

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            I'm on a FTC, initially 2 years been extended for another year and it's been mentioned that another year is on the cards.

            No different to an inside contract really, except you get a pension and paid holidays. My salary is what my average daily rate was.

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              Originally posted by quackhandle View Post
              2 interviews and one of those bulltulip psychometric test (never done one before), then in final int they say this question around five times: "what would you do if you received no help on the project?"
              Sweet FA because I would be a permie obviously!

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                Originally posted by oliverson View Post
                I have three Ltd companies, none of which do web development.
                Out of interest, why 3 companies? As I understand it, they'd be "associated companies" if they have the same shareholder(s), and then the corporation tax threshold gets split equally between them.

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                  Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post


                  Just tell them what they want to hear. And lay it on thick.

                  What you say in the interview and what you actually do on the job are not the same.

                  After the initial probation period and you have shown them how amazing you are, then you can put your feet up (on remote days anyway).

                  I am currently a permie and fully remote, and embarrassed to say how little I work compared to when I was a contractor as there is

                  1) no renewal to work for

                  2) the take home pay is about half what I was getting as a contractor, so I put in about half the effort (actually is more like one quarter if I'm honest ).

                  I have gotten good at always acting very busy and stretching out work that would take a day into a week.

                  I was always a 4x developer, so even if I put in a quarter of the effort I used to do, it is still the same output as an average developer. I have worked with developers who have been even more productive than me, I would call them 6x developers. I have never met a 10x developer but I am sure they are out there.
                  Thanks for being forthright about your situation. One of the good things about this forum.

                  I agree with "What you say in the interview and what you actually do on the job are not the same.", but for the rest of it, that's not how I roll.

                  I don't say anything to get the role, in an interview I influence it to be more like two professional businesses working out if they are a good fit for one another. I tell the agent and client this going in.

                  I'm leaving the current role I'm partially because the actual work is thin on the ground. I have no interest in swinging the lead, nor working every hour God sends.

                  The permie interview I did was me failing. I shouldn't have lost my cool, and I should have managed the interview process better.

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                    Originally posted by hobnob View Post

                    Out of interest, why 3 companies? As I understand it, they'd be "associated companies" if they have the same shareholder(s), and then the corporation tax threshold gets split equally between them.
                    One is my traditional contracting company which I will possibly fold if I don't land anything before December. The other two are 'product' companies, each serving a very different market. Startups that won't yield a return for several months, hence the reason I'm pursuing contracts still.

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                      Originally posted by Dorkeaux View Post
                      The permie interview I did was me failing. I shouldn't have lost my cool, and I should have managed the interview process better.
                      It takes practice I think. Blew my recent permie interview in part because I just didn't really know what kind of things they would ask or what kinds of answers would get me the job, but to be expected if its the only permie interview I have done in 25 years!

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