State of the Market

[hungry_hog]

"Challenging" as in difficult but interesting rewarding work? Or "challenging" as in the PM is a complete arse or the whole place is stressful, chaotic or toxic?

Option B. Consultancy mindset. Lots of slides to say what you are doing, but no time to do it, because you are doing slides

[SussexSeagull]

I hate technical incompetent managers

Actually, I have worked for a few technically incompetent managers who had the self awareness to know they were technically incompetent and it can work quite well!

[SussexSeagull]

About a decade late to help the contracting market but long overdue

What's likely to be in Labour's immigration crackdown?

'Employers will have to show they are investing in UK skills before they will be allowed to bring in workers from overseas, the White Paper is expected to say.

This has long been promised by Labour, with the IT and telecommunications sectors likely to be targeted.'

[malvolio]

About a decade late to help the contracting market but long overdue

What's likely to be in Labour's immigration crackdown?

'Employers will have to show they are investing in UK skills before they will be allowed to bring in workers from overseas, the White Paper is expected to say.

This has long been promised by Labour, with the IT and telecommunications sectors likely to be targeted.'

Interesting to note that three of the major points in their plan have been proposed before and Labour voted them down every time...

Also interesting that our shiny new trade Deal with India will skip around that plan..

I'm not expecting them to actually impalement anything of any use to us.

[Protagoras]

I'm not expecting them to actually impalement anything of any use to us.

Has the UK government ever done anything that wasn't to the detriment of the contract market?

[SussexSeagull]

Interesting to note that three of the major points in their plan have been proposed before and Labour voted them down every time...

Also interesting that our shiny new trade Deal with India will skip around that plan..

I'm not expecting them to actually impalement anything of any use to us.

Unless you are talking about the last Labour government, which finished in 2010, they wouldn't have had the numbers to vote anything down in Parliament without some Conservative MPs joining in as they simply didn't have the numbers until July last year.

There will be no new Visas issued on the back of the the Indian trade deal. I agree it is far from perfect but let's get our facts right.

[SussexSeagull]

Has the UK government ever done anything that wasn't to the detriment of the contract market?

I don't actually think anyone in government has ever woken up in the morning and decided to wreck the contract market, but it does seem to happen anyway.

[Manic]

About a decade late to help the contracting market but long overdue

What's likely to be in Labour's immigration crackdown?

'Employers will have to show they are investing in UK skills before they will be allowed to bring in workers from overseas, the White Paper is expected to say.

This has long been promised by Labour, with the IT and telecommunications sectors likely to be targeted.'

Easy to get round it - Advertise a role at poor rates and argue no one applied.

[malvolio]

Unless you are talking about the last Labour government, which finished in 2010, they wouldn't have had the numbers to vote anything down in Parliament without some Conservative MPs joining in as they simply didn't have the numbers until July last year.

There will be no new Visas issued on the back of the the Indian trade deal. I agree it is far from perfect but let's get our facts right.

You don't have to have the numbers as such. Vote against (in fact they voted against almost everything the Tories proposed), send it to the Lords, get it rejected there (not the whole thing, just some key clauses), get it back, debate it again, rinse and repeat until you run out of time. Same reason that Rwanda never got passed for a year or more - and when it did and started to have the intended impact, Starmer killed it.

But yes, there were Tory rebels in the mix. That shambles of a government was only interested in fighting for positions rather than governing the country.

The fact remains very similar proposals were put to the Commons and never passed.

[sadkingbilly]

I'm not expecting them to actually impalement anything of any use to us.

that'd make your eyes water.