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    Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post
    I have never heard of Amazon or Google bringing in Contractors. I had an interview once with Microsoft in Reading for a contract but that was years ago.

    it isn’t in their business models.
    They don't need to. They already employ some of the best in the business.

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      Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post
      I have never heard of Amazon or Google bringing in Contractors. I had an interview once with Microsoft in Reading for a contract but that was years ago.

      it isn’t in their business models.
      They don't ever need to few leave for good reason.....my mate works at google.....if you knew the kind of working T&Cs & constant perks they get you would understand why few jobs ever come up

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        More action on LinkedIn and indeed on JobServe with some outside roles paying good rates, especially in insurance.

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          Originally posted by TheDude View Post

          They don't need to. They already employ some of the best in the business.
          Which, as I said, is their business model. As has been pointed out elsewhere they also pay them extremely well.

          They never have been a destination for contractors.

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            I consider myself talented TBH. Never had a problem with learning anything that has to be done. I am also fast.

            However in a pool of 100 developers, it would be a struggle to see a difference immediately. Perhaps over 3/6mths, it would be more clear. And certainly not in any technical test.

            Big tech companies rarely hire contractors, they have all the talent they need. They also have availability and resources should a new project or requirement come up to hire a permi on a good package.

            Starting year 3 on the bench. Life is very different to how it was.

            Done job applications, read the news, time to get on the bicycle. Hopefully a buffet and gym later on.


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              Originally posted by uk contractor View Post
              Let me educate you a little............

              If you or anyone else did not know about this deception then there is little hope for you tbh
              educate me? I don't think so.
              I've been in IT freelance in all it's guises since the '70's.
              been there, done that.

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                LA International are struggling to find D365 architects and developers for a number of outside roles. If anybody is looking and that's their skillset.

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                  Originally posted by SussexSeagull View Post
                  I have never heard of Amazon or Google bringing in Contractors. I had an interview once with Microsoft in Reading for a contract but that was years ago.

                  it isn’t in their business models.
                  Why would they? people want that name on their CV, they will often accept even tulip pay and go through 109238019283012 stages of interviews, just to be there for a bit.

                  I've recently read a short thread on working at Google in Zurich, you'd think those two things together would equal prestige? well they are certainly paid well, but are worked to the ground as very often they lay off more and more people and all the tulip not done by the previous laid off group lands on your lap + you need to do new stuff every week. Then someone joined in to say they work in the financial division and does 60+ hrs a week with no extra comp...and that it's expected...

                  If you have a brand name that everyone wants on their CV you really don't need to even headhunt, people come to you and kiss your hands to be given a chance.

                  Contractors / consultants work if a client is clueless, has tons of money and wants someone to hold their hand. Also sometimes when they need niche skills, don't want a highly paid perm, but wants a bit of work done in say 3 months. Bums on seats for £600+pd was and always is madness, just seems that now everyone got the memo and realised it.

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                    Originally posted by dsc View Post

                    No one gives a tulip about talent, it's a race to the bottom with cost.
                    I believe the pathway to enlightenment is... to avoid being at the bottom!

                    Being able to hack out a bit of code was once an impressive skill that put you at the top. But its a tired trick nowadays. I have always believed that as a contractor the race you need to win is the constant aquisition of new skills that elevate your game.

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                      Originally posted by avonleigh View Post
                      LA International are struggling to find D365 architects and developers for a number of outside roles. If anybody is looking and that's their skillset.
                      Never done D365 but I know I can do the development work. It's not rocket science (it is computer science) and I am more than capable.

                      That's my usual attitude to most things. Does cause a lot of pain and frustration but I always get through the finishing line.

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