State of the Market

[rocktronAMP]

Jobserve was at 50,000 about 10 days ago. That was the last of the April bounce.

Location: Remote working
Rate: 350 euros/day (Outside IR35) - Paid in SEK/hr
Location: Remote working (onsite for a day or 2 every 3-5 months)
Duration: 6 months + option to extend
Freelance / B2B Contract
40 Hours per week / Full Time

This was just emailed into me. State of the market. For Context, I could easily get £600pd outside IR35 in 2019 and I did. It is for a senior dev with Java/Kotlin/GCP for a famous Swedish home furniture brand.

[Fraidycat]

Definitely a few contractors on here angling for a special gold star from their manager.

[Fraidycat]

Location: Remote working
Rate: 350 euros/day (Outside IR35) - Paid in SEK/hr
Location: Remote working (onsite for a day or 2 every 3-5 months)
Duration: 6 months + option to extend
Freelance / B2B Contract
40 Hours per week / Full Time

Two of those and you are sorted.

They really are not going to expect much for 350Euros a day. Others will say these gigs are even harder work than 600 a day gigs, but i disagree. Personally i would feel no pressure in a contract like that, i would give them exactly 350 euros of value, if they don't renew the contract because they thought i didn't work hard enough, who cares, no big loss.

[PerfectStorm]

Location: Remote working
Rate: 350 euros/day (Outside IR35) - Paid in SEK/hr
Location: Remote working (onsite for a day or 2 every 3-5 months)
Duration: 6 months + option to extend
Freelance / B2B Contract
40 Hours per week / Full Time

This was just emailed into me. State of the market. For Context, I could easily get £600pd outside IR35 in 2019 and I did. It is for a senior dev with Java/Kotlin/GCP for a famous Swedish home furniture brand.

You're telling me Ikea aren't paying a lot?

[SussexSeagull]

That is the problem. I was pretty high up the tree in terms of skills and income, but my work was mostly short to medium term remediation. improvement or programme recovery work. Such roles don't come up every day, are highly strategic and often limited to specific industry verticals. As a result on average I worked 7 months a year. On the other hand I was dealing with £10-£100 million pieces of work...

The people that sit on a never ending supply of work either have very good localised networks - i know several PMs that step between the same two or three banking clients for years on end - or have readily available bulk skills, but you could argue that 90% of the them are on inside IR35 roles anyway, whether thy admit it or not.

What they are not is something special and somehow more successful than us high level specialists.

I live in a fairly average sized town with a couple of sizeable companies with IT departments who seem to have a cabal of contractors who just move between the two every few years.

I worked with a few of them once and they are so far caught under IR35 they would need Sat Nav to get out again. It might be lucrative but they are in a world of pain if the HMRC ever take an interest and it isn’t really contracting in my eyes.

[Paralytic]

It is for a senior dev with Java/Kotlin/GCP for a famous Swedish home furniture brand.

Sounds quite easy - I assume they'll be ok with code being delivered with bits missing?

[rocktronAMP]

You're telling me Ikea aren't paying a lot?

"Hi ______
I'm recruiting for a Remote Working Software Engineer for Ikea." Yes PerformStorm you win Dusty Bin as the star prize.


Seriously. We should start a brand new thread: How to Moonlight Secretly without your Employer Client knowing?

[TheDude]

Location: Remote working
Rate: 350 euros/day (Outside IR35) - Paid in SEK/hr
Location: Remote working (onsite for a day or 2 every 3-5 months)
Duration: 6 months + option to extend
Freelance / B2B Contract
40 Hours per week / Full Time

This was just emailed into me. State of the market. For Context, I could easily get £600pd outside IR35 in 2019 and I did. It is for a senior dev with Java/Kotlin/GCP for a famous Swedish home furniture brand.

Is it Parker Knoll?

[northernladuk]

Nice copium, who's your dealer?

Perhaps making sure projects don't go tits up in the first place might stop your slave owner demand you be a good little boy and do extra hours; that sounds less like "good quality service" and more like "incompetence".

I'm in service not developement so their screwups hold me up in doing what I have to to get it live but nice bit of pointless trolling you tedious chunt.

[cojak]

TheGreenBastard and northernladuk - tone it down the pair of you on the Professional forums or you’ll both be banned.