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Half-decent, simple UML type diagram tools?

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    Half-decent, simple UML type diagram tools?

    I'm throwing together some diagrams of existing code and finding the software is hindering rather than helping me. I don't have access to a heavy-weight tool like Enterprise Architect and have bad experience with Visio. I thought I was onto a winner with the light-weight Draw.io but it's a bit too limited - you end up having to manually change every line to show the right sort of arrow head if it's a use/extend relationship, etc.

    Thinking back, I've never found a tool that doesn't get in my way to some extent... I could draw on a whiteboard faster than use the software in most cases.


    Is there anything out there that "just works" and doesn't require an enterprise license? I'm not doing 100% formal diagrams, more throwing together something useful to document my trawling through the code.
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    Yeah, I was going to suggest draw.io, but I see you've ruled it out already.

    ( I try to avoid UML wherever possible . Your application sounds totally reasonable but, in general, UML lends more to upfront (over-design) of stuff and I have rarely seen it actually used in a workplace and/or end well. YMMV, of course. )

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      Archimate?

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        #4
        Yeah, I prefer a sort of UML-ish structure. Proper UML is a nightmare unless you're using it to auto-generate skeleton code which can be quite good.
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          A previous client of mine used Lucidchart, which was good because it was cross platform and was reasonably user friendly.
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            #6
            Dia ?

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              #7
              Dia is quite good.
              I like draw.io and self host an instance but its really only good for on the fly stuff.
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                #8
                I have Enterprise Architect Professional Edition, it’s stand-alone but good.

                If you just want to draw pictures rather than build libraries (and there’s no harm in that), then Edraw Max is very good, it has a load of very good templates.

                (I’ve both, but I’m a bit of a geek like that.)
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                  Not heard of Edraw Max before so will take a look. Also don't discount a good old fashioned wall and sticky-pads, string and blue-tac if your all on site. I ran a workshop yesterday with an old school wall, first whiteboard session for a long time and much more enjoyable with a group than staring at a screen.


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                    #10
                    Wow all this takes me back 20 years. Anyone remember Rational Rose and UML --> Code and Code --> UML. What a cluster **** that was.

                    I thought all this kind of crap went away with Agile DevOps. 4 minutes of design time, code and test in the afternoon and all done by the end of the week. No need to document anything, the code speaks for itself.
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