Reply to: But he's GERMAN

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If he's no good, there's always Fernando Santos...

[TestMangler]

Two separate things, both brilliant. Would be totally wasted on GenZ

I know they're separate things. What I was meaning was that the famous 'womens football' sketch was Alas Smith and Jones rather than NTNOCN as another poster mentioned.

[quackhandle]

What most have said about wee Tommy Tuchel is great manager but can be tricky to work with.

Most of his beef I think comes from Club owners putting their oar in saying you must play xxxx player he cost us £££££. So with a national team can't see that happening.

At a minimum England need to reach the next world cup final, so no pressure then.

qh

[sadkingbilly]

Maybe there's a solution to my insomnia. Watch football, should bore me to sleep.

nah, - you want test cricket for that. - seriously soporific stuff

[malvolio]

Maybe there's a solution to my insomnia. Watch football, should bore me to sleep.

The really annoying thing is that a good and skilful game of football is a joy to watch. What kills it for me is the pantomime histrionics and blatant cheating that infests virtually every game played, and the cliched hysteria coming from managers and pundits alike. I'll stick to rugby thanks.

[xoggoth]

Maybe there's a solution to my insomnia. Watch football, should bore me to sleep.

[vetran]

Bunch of racists - who cares what nationality he is, the question is - is he any good? From the looks of it not brilliant.

Oddly it seems little old racist England is one of the few countries to have had a foreign born coach.

[sadkingbilly]

oooh!, well, la-di-da old chaps! - jolly spiffing show so far.

(bunch of feckin snobs)

[Zigenare]

I always thought it was because a football match tends to be a congregation of people of low social economic backgrounds. So violence is bound to happen.

"low socio-economic" are the words you're looking for you football fan!

[northernladuk]

It's more to do with the inherent and totally irrational tribalism that seems to bind most serious football fans. It manifests all over the place, from a user threatening violence if I didn't put his screen back to a headache-inducing virulent green (he was a Glaswegian Celtic supporter it seems) to someone placing attendance at his matches above the day job as Prime Minister.

Never understood it myself! Too much the loner I suspect...

I always thought it was because a football match tends to be a congregation of people of low social economic backgrounds. So violence is bound to happen.

[malvolio]

Maybe it has something to do with how successful the team is? Eddie Jones, for all his gobbieness, did a reasonable job with the rugby team.
Or is it actually to do with a specific nationality, and the specific sport?

My memory may be faded, but I don’t recall England Rugby fans or Cricket fans rioting in the stands in the 80s & 90s. Nor do I think I’ve seen them putting lit flares up their backsides or trashing towns after losses (or wins).

It's more to do with the inherent and totally irrational tribalism that seems to bind most serious football fans. It manifests all over the place, from a user threatening violence if I didn't put his screen back to a headache-inducing virulent green (he was a Glaswegian Celtic supporter it seems) to someone placing attendance at his matches above the day job as Prime Minister.

Never understood it myself! Too much the loner I suspect...

[WTFH]

The England cricket team currently has a New Zealander as coach. Since the late 90s, four of the eight test coaches have been foreign and heaven forbid we've had two Australian coaches across all formats. I don't remember this amount of little Englander vitriol accompanying their appointments.

Maybe it has something to do with how successful the team is? Eddie Jones, for all his gobbieness, did a reasonable job with the rugby team.
Or is it actually to do with a specific nationality, and the specific sport?

My memory may be faded, but I don’t recall England Rugby fans or Cricket fans rioting in the stands in the 80s & 90s. Nor do I think I’ve seen them putting lit flares up their backsides or trashing towns after losses (or wins).

[edison]

As an aside, curiously CUK is one of the few forums I've ever used that doesn't seem to have any significant discussion about football, or even sport...

The England cricket team currently has a New Zealander as coach. Since the late 90s, four of the eight test coaches have been foreign and heaven forbid we've had two Australian coaches across all formats. I don't remember this amount of little Englander vitriol accompanying their appointments.

[Zigenare]

He's a tuftie!

He's the only one to ever get blackballed by the Tufty Club!

[malvolio]

Was that not Alas Smith & Jones ?

I'm certainly not too young to remember......possibly too old to remember !

Two separate things, both brilliant. Would be totally wasted on GenZ