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Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
Maybe Labour wanted to let the matter proceed further, to give the Tories more rope to hang themselves!
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostI read somewhere that this need not have happened at all if Labour had got their act together and voted down the earlier proposal. With the Tory abstentions and the ones ignoring the Whips, they could easily have done so. If true, it does highlight how useless our opposition really is if they miss a chance to defeat the sitting government.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostProbably one of my more stupid questions but.. not being at all political... surely the Gov doing U turns every so often is a good thing? It would be worse to continue down a path that has become untenable than doing a U turn no? I mean, if there was uproar every time a U turn was made in a project we'd not deliver anything cause we would be too busy complaining?
I think the problem here though is they are not doing a U-turn because they think it's the right thing to do. They are doing it due to the bad press and the risk to votes. If they could have forced it in due to more voting MPs and their loving red top press chums, I don't think they would have changed tack.
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Originally posted by mattster View Post
Changing your mind on the basis of new information is healthy, but that has not happened in this case. Patterson was as corrupt yesterday as he is today, and they all knew it. They thought they could get away with it (and thus - the real motivation - protect Bojo and various other cronies from upcoming PPE contract investigations), but they were surprised by the extent of hostile reaction - especially in the Tory press. So today they all think differently than they did yesterday, but we all know what they really think.
'I'm having to quit the cruel world of politics, because I made it a cruel world by breaking the rules and taking cash for questions, it's everyone else's fault that I am having to do this. You voting public need to go and have a hard look t yourselves as to why you have forced an honourable man like me to quit the job I did so well. Now you need to support people like me and continue to support The Party.'
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostProbably one of my more stupid questions but.. not being at all political... surely the Gov doing U turns every so often is a good thing? It would be worse to continue down a path that has become untenable than doing a U turn no? I mean, if there was uproar every time a U turn was made in a project we'd not deliver anything cause we would be too busy complaining?
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostProbably one of my more stupid questions but.. not being at all political... surely the Gov doing U turns every so often is a good thing? It would be worse to continue down a path that has become untenable than doing a U turn no? I mean, if there was uproar every time a U turn was made in a project we'd not deliver anything cause we would be too busy complaining?
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And he's gone...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-watchdog-row
Owen Paterson has decided to resign as the MP for North Shropshire, saying: “I will remain a public servant but outside the cruel world of politics.”
Paterson was facing a 30-day suspension from the House of Commons and a potential byelection, after Boris Johnson withdrew his support from a bid to protect him.
Downing Street executed a humiliating U-turn on Thursday, just hours after Johnson whipped his MPs to support an amendment that paused judgment in the Paterson case while the system for policing MPs’ behaviour was overhauled.
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Originally posted by eek View PostIn this case it's a completely unforced error and the issue is that this Government seems to be making a lot of them.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostProbably one of my more stupid questions but.. not being at all political... surely the Gov doing U turns every so often is a good thing? It would be worse to continue down a path that has become untenable than doing a U turn no? I mean, if there was uproar every time a U turn was made in a project we'd not deliver anything cause we would be too busy complaining?
In this case it's probably cost Owen Paterson his seat - previously it would have been a low profile issue making a recall hard to organise and win.
After yesterday - as soon as it's triggered I suspect they would have the necessary numbers in a week.
In this case it's a completely unforced error and the issue is that this Government seems to be making a lot of them.
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Probably one of my more stupid questions but.. not being at all political... surely the Gov doing U turns every so often is a good thing? It would be worse to continue down a path that has become untenable than doing a U turn no? I mean, if there was uproar every time a U turn was made in a project we'd not deliver anything cause we would be too busy complaining?
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From memory (as I can't find the tweet) 60 Tory MPs had permission to miss yesterdays vote.
All the other Tory MPs who abstained, intentionally abstained rather than following the whipped vote to vote Aye.
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Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
You read wrongly.
The Labour abstentions are from pairing and unlike the Tories they don't go back on their word.
AS for Labour not going back on their word, where can we start...
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