Reply to: Work For startup cons?

[cojak]

In that case, thread closed.

[GitMaster69]

Eh?

10k LinkedIn connections are not actual connections. You’ve just spammed everyone you can.

“headhunted” is being asked to slog your arse, for 60+ hrs a week, for an under market rate, to a US company, who will control your arse as well…… that’s not my definition of headhunted.
nobody headhunts developers unless they are something very special ( you’re not)

you need a reality check…. That is assuming you haven’t just made this up…

oh. And this gig will be inside IR35. Sure as eggs is eggs. They will have control and you have no ROS. No matter what it says in the contract.

Ok I'm bored with these attacks,
each to their own

[Lance]

that's what the people with 100 connections are typically saying.

the secret sauce is to have 10000+ connections, that's when the career kicks off.
The linkedin algorithm is pretty good at filtering out the good stuff.


...And you get to be headhunted as I just was.

Eh?

10k LinkedIn connections are not actual connections. You’ve just spammed everyone you can.

“headhunted” is being asked to slog your arse, for 60+ hrs a week, for an under market rate, to a US company, who will control your arse as well…… that’s not my definition of headhunted.
nobody headhunts developers unless they are something very special ( you’re not)

you need a reality check…. That is assuming you haven’t just made this up…

oh. And this gig will be inside IR35. Sure as eggs is eggs. They will have control and you have no ROS. No matter what it says in the contract.

[northernladuk]

that's just ridiculously ignorant and false statement

No?

You just make yourself look stupid every time you post.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-m...mes-storer-1c/

It doesn’t take much to differentiate yourself either. 54% of people on LinkedIn have less than 500 connections 27% have between 500–999 12% have between 1,000–1,999 3% have between 2,000–2,999. Meaning if you knock out 400 new connections per month you’ll be within the top 3 percent in a little over 7 months.

[GitMaster69]

Just pointless talking to you.

then don't ?

The top 3% of people on linkedin have less than 3k

that's just ridiculously ignorant and false statement

You are just trolling.

No?

[northernladuk]

that's what the people with 100 connections are typically saying.

the secret sauce is to have 10000+ connections, that's when the career kicks off.
The linkedin algorithm is pretty good at filtering out the good stuff.


...And you get to be headhunted as I just was.

Just pointless talking to you. The top 3% of people on linkedin have less than 3k. You are just trolling.

[GitMaster69]

A vast linkedin network of useful people or just added every random bod at all your clients, all of which just post tripe about their achievements and family life?

that's what the people with 100 connections are typically saying.

the secret sauce is to have 10000+ connections, that's when the career kicks off.
The linkedin algorithm is pretty good at filtering out the good stuff.


...And you get to be headhunted as I just was.

[northernladuk]

How do you focus there exactly ? I have vast UK linkedin network , and now seriously thinking of refocusing it to US

A vast linkedin network of useful people or just added every random bod at all your clients, all of which just post tripe about their achievements and family life?

[jamesbrown]

How do you focus there exactly ? I have vast UK linkedin network , and now seriously thinking of refocusing it to US

By being a specialist and building a network over many years, mainly through working in my niche as a permie, not linkedin etc. I'm not in IT, so my experience is probably not relevant, except in a general sense. I mostly get work by teaming with other companies and responding to RFPs. Networking is the right idea but, if you're a generalist, it will be much harder because those roles can be filled locally. It's hard to compare the US with the UK because there isn't much of a contracting scene in the US (as we know it). That said, the labour market is extremely tight over there at the moment, so you may get lucky even as a generalist, but it may be easier to find a fully remote permie position, ironically.

[GitMaster69]

US rates are vastly higher than UK/EU rates, which is one reason I focus there.

Just bear in mind that, if they don't pay you, it won't be worth pursuing them.

Also, they will probably want the contract written with US jurisdiction and governing law (of a US state).

How do you focus there exactly ? I have vast UK linkedin network , and now seriously thinking of refocusing it to US

[eek]

Show your workings.

AFAIK you can only put 40,000 per year in a pension which will still put you firmly in the 80% tax bracket that starts at 100k.

If you have been moneyboxing (I.e. keeping in the company for a rainy day) your outside work - you wouldn’t be paying into your pension for outside work. So I have £120,000 of allowances I can make use of.

also from £100,000 the tax rate is 62% as you the basic allowance is removed

[hugebrain]

Depends on your skill set. For mine outside is £550 to £600 or so but inside is anything from £500 to £850.

And if my calculations are right if you the inside rate covers the Employer NI payments provided you max out your pension payment the difference between inside and outside isn't much different.

Show your workings.

AFAIK you can only put 40,000 per year in a pension which will still put you firmly in the 80% tax bracket that starts at 100k.

[eek]

I haven't seen nearly any outside roles that paid more than 500 despite having huge connections since ir35 reform in 2021
I think the rate you mention goes to an agent if and when it's outside

Depends on your skill set. For mine outside is £550 to £600 or so but inside is anything from £500 to £850.

And if my calculations are right if you the inside rate covers the Employer NI payments provided you max out your pension payment the difference between inside and outside isn't much different.

[GitMaster69]

$800 a day is about the going rate for a competent but unspectacular Java/C# dev at a bank in London. Someone that knows the language, knows a few frameworks and can close Jiras at an acceptable rate.

Most of these would struggle to get into the likes of Google, Facebook/Meta etc. because they are just not strong enough algorithmically. With a few exceptions these companies are not particularly interested in your prowess in language x, y or z - they expect you to be very strong in solving novel problems rather than reapplying the same patterns over and over agin.

I haven't seen nearly any outside roles that paid more than 500 despite having huge connections since ir35 reform in 2021
I think the rate you mention goes to an agent if and when it's outside

[d000hg]

So have you had your answer and you are just throwing random thoughts in for attention now or is there still a point to this thread?

Just because you're not interested in the discussion doesn't mean we're not. Leave the thread rather than turning into another complaints session.