Taken back control?

[vetran]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ce-forces.html

Hundreds of foreign criminals guilty of serious offences including murder, rape and child sexual abuse have slipped into the UK without being checked over the past three years, new police figures revealed today.

Data from police computer systems show thousands of searches are being made throughout Europe and the world every day on the criminal backgrounds of overseas offenders who have already entered the UK.

Horrifyingly these checks are turning up hundreds of worrying convictions, with killers, sex offenders and paedophiles coming into the country with no warnings to local UK police forces.

Visa applicants to the UK are asked to disclose criminal convictions. But people from countries with visa-free travel to the UK - which includes EU members - do not have to.

This means British police generally only find out about their previous convictions when they are arrested for an offence here.

A new electronic travel authorisation (ETA) will see visitors who do not currently require a visa fill out a form on which they will have to disclose past convictions. It currently only applies to Qatar but is set to be rolled out to all non-visa countries by the end of the year.

[dsc]

I'm sure if it was mandatory to disclose criminal convictions, criminals would disclose them...

Also:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-of-criminals

I think the phrase "shooting yourself in the foot" fits here rather well.

[Paddy]

For the avoidance of any misunderstanding, two years ago, the Tories under Boris Johnson did away with compulsory registration of foreigners in the UK and closed the alien registration offices. The UK government don’t have a clue on how many overstayers are in the UK. This would not have be permitted under EU directives therefore, it’s a Brexit Benefit

[northernladuk]

I'm sure if it was mandatory to disclose criminal convictions, criminals would disclose them...

Also:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e-of-criminals

I think the phrase "shooting yourself in the foot" fits here rather well.

Everyone knows Brexit was going to complex whether you wanted it or not. It was never going to be easy due to it's size and scope without people playing games just 'because you deserved it'. This is an example where silly politics and personal agenda's are getting in the way of peoples safety. Not giving access because you wanted brexit so live with it is a really poor attitude and people that are doing this should hang their heads in shame. People are literally dying because of it which isn't acceptable whatever the UK's decision was.

No way should it take 4 years to get access to EU wide systems when peoples safety is at stake just because of petty politics. Very sad situation.

[woody1]

Probably plenty of our own home-grown convicted murderers, rapists and paedos traveling freely to other countries.

Having said that, many tourist destinations around the world are probably sick of Brits full stop.

[vetran]

Probably plenty of our own home-grown convicted murderers, rapists and paedos traveling freely to other countries.

Having said that, many tourist destinations around the world are probably sick of Brits full stop.

This is probably true, Spain has a good portion of ours which is why we encouraged data sharing. We started with free movement in 2004, we finally got data sharing in 2015, we lost it for some reason after Brexit (it was mutually beneficial).

[NotAllThere]

This is probably true, Spain has a good portion of ours which is why we encouraged data sharing. We started with free movement in 2004, we finally got data sharing in 2015, we lost it for some reason after Brexit (it was mutually beneficial).

Data sharing was part of the Schengen agreement that Britain signed up for. It was known that Brexit would mean the end of that.

[WTFH]

Data sharing was part of the Schengen agreement that Britain signed up for. It was known that Brexit would mean the end of that.

Are you implying that criminals voted for Brexit, because they knew they would benefit from it?

[dsc]

Everyone knows Brexit was going to complex whether you wanted it or not. It was never going to be easy due to it's size and scope without people playing games just 'because you deserved it'. This is an example where silly politics and personal agenda's are getting in the way of peoples safety. Not giving access because you wanted brexit so live with it is a really poor attitude and people that are doing this should hang their heads in shame. People are literally dying because of it which isn't acceptable whatever the UK's decision was.

No way should it take 4 years to get access to EU wide systems when peoples safety is at stake just because of petty politics. Very sad situation.

Who's playing games? where's evidence that lack of access is due to "ill will"? and please, oh please don't say it's common sense and I'm blind to not see it.

Everyone knew Brexit would be super hard to implement properly, it was down to the UK to make sure everything works when the UK is out of the block. How that came out...well look around you and stop blaming others.

[malvolio]

Who's playing games? where's evidence that lack of access is due to "ill will"? and please, oh please don't say it's common sense and I'm blind to not see it.

Everyone knew Brexit would be super hard to implement properly, it was down to the UK to make sure everything works when the UK is out of the block. How that came out...well look around you and stop blaming others.

Most of the Brexit woes are either down to EU rules embedded into UK law (like Blair with the Human Rights Act for one major example) and a constant refusal by Brussels to moderate or negotiate their side of what wee intended to be bilateral agreements (and to be fair, there's no reason why they should). So the question in not about failures with Brexit, they are actually about failures to create, implement and enact our own laws, regulations, trading arrangements and processes to replace those previously run by the EU.

Is that government or an inept and largely inert Civil Service...?