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Oh dear what a pity, Karma is a bitch.

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    #21
    Originally posted by JustKeepSwimming View Post
    It's like panorama. They have a generally good record.
    Agreed. I wonder if their top ethical investigator, Martin Bashir, was involved?

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      #22
      Originally posted by SueEllen View Post


      You forgot to mention even if the police and CPS believe her then a jury is unlikely to.
      Assuming they can find the video then most juries would IMHO.

      The difficulty is its normally one persons word against the others.

      The statistics are against prosecutions sadly

      https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-inform...xual-violence/
      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post

        Not correct, there were many police reports against Saville.

        The Saville report said, he could been stopped as early as 1964 but police mishandled evidence and dismissed victims.

        Brand had sex with 100s of women yet none went to the police?
        it's not even a close comparison.
        Savile (one L) mostly abused children.
        Brand stands accused of abusing women of consenting age.

        Note... that asking why they didn't go to Police demonstrates an almost moronic lack of understanding of what's involved. And puts you in the category of 'rape apologiser' along with most GBeebies reporters, Julia Dunning-Kreuger and a bunch of other unpleasant characters. I'm not saying that you intend to be a rape apologist but maybe read a bit first.

        The next phase of apologist is to suggest they are doing it for cash (just to help you not fall into that one).

        Even the Spectator calls it out.
        The ‘naive cynicism’ of Russell Brand’s hasty defenders | The Spectator

        if your first reaction is to tap your nose and raise an eyebrow and, before you’ve even considered the report itself, to speculate about the motivations of the reporting, you’re a damn (sic) fool. This falls into the category that my old editor Charles Moore used to call ‘naive cynicism’: a phrase that nicely captures the self-complimenting logic of the conspiracy theorist.
        Last edited by Lance; 18 September 2023, 08:25.
        See You Next Tuesday

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          #24
          Originally posted by eek View Post

          In most companies (ab)using your position and having a relationship with a more junior colleague would be a sackable offence…

          which is why the production companies involved are rather scared at the moment…
          I am hoping that is the case that his employers are made to reform their behaviour.
          Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Lance View Post
            Brand stands accused of abusing women of consenting age.
            One was 16, which while legal, is still rather off.

            Anyway, the question was "why didn't they go to the police". And the answer is "for the same reason as many of Saville's victims, Cosby's victimes..."
            Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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              #26
              Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
              One was 16, which while legal, is still rather off.

              Anyway, the question was "why didn't they go to the police". And the answer is "for the same reason as many of Saville's victims, Cosby's victimes..."
              This is quite telling

              https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nderneath.html

              She previously had consensually indulged in sex but he also pushed the envelope and raped her. Imagine convincing a jury.

              Its complex sadly. But as I said when he & W*****R Woss did the phone prank he isn't right.
              Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                #27
                Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post

                Anyway, the question was "why didn't they go to the police". And the answer is "for the same reason as many of Saville's victims, Cosby's victimes..."
                A quick google shows both Savile and Cosby accusers went to the police at or near the time.

                eg. Cosby assaulted Constand at his home in Pennsylvania in January 2004. Constand reported the alleged crime to the police one year later.

                Police reports were made against Saville starting from the mid 1960s.


                The Met Police made a statement yesterday that no one has ever filed a police report against Brand. Which is notable because he had sex with 100s of women. And not even one of them ever made a Police report against him.
                Last edited by Fraidycat; 18 September 2023, 09:25.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post

                  A quick google shows both Savile and Cosby accusers went to the police at or near the time.

                  eg. Cosby assaulted Constand at his home in Pennsylvania in January 2004. Constand reported the alleged crime to the police one year later.

                  Police reports were made against Saville starting from the mid 1960s.


                  The Met Police made a statement yesterday that no one has ever filed a police report against Brand. Which is notable because he had sex with 100s of women. And not even one of them ever made a Police report against him.
                  The rape accusation was not in London so the Met wouldn't have been involved if it did go to the police.
                  Stop digging. You're making yourself look even more of a ****.

                  EDIT : Even the Daily Mail are blocking comments. Presumably due to the nasty nature of rape apologists.


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                  Last edited by NotAllThere; 18 September 2023, 13:06. Reason: Mod snip.
                  See You Next Tuesday

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Lance View Post

                    The rape accusation was not in London so the Met wouldn't have been involved if it did go to the police.
                    Stop digging. You're making yourself look even more of a ****.

                    EDIT : Even the Daily Mail are blocking comments. Presumably due to the nasty nature of rape apologists.


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                    or the deep pockets of Brand, BBC & ITV who allegedly enabled him.

                    Don't forget the rape vigilantes- only 2% ever get convicted so 98% get away with it.
                    Last edited by NotAllThere; 18 September 2023, 13:06. Reason: Modsnip
                    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                      #30
                      The TV executives who hired him, who put restrictions in his contract and moved female employees off shows he was presenting should investigated by the police and hopefully charged.

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