Send them to Scotland instead of Rwanda.
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Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishing -
Originally posted by d000hg View PostSend them to Scotland instead of Rwanda.Comment
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Originally posted by sadkingbilly View Post
typical god botherer sh1te"You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by Whorty View Post
So what are you and your glorious party doing about it, apart from high profile totally ineffectual PR stunts like the flights to Rwanda that doesn't solve a problem but looks good to the Wail readers and the Tories can claim they are trying something even if they know it's like p-ing in the wind.
There is plenty of lower level work in the UK, but very few people willing to do it. Most of the immigrants yes are probably economic ... seems a pretty simple solution there .. let them work and add to the economy. But then we had that with the Eastern Europeans who came here and the Wail readers were up in arms that they were taking jobs that UK born people wouldn't do anyway.
We have a chance here to help the UK economy and make the world a slightly better place for a number of people, and yet we choose not to. Very sad.
If we allow them to work then that doesn't exactly discourage them.
Most will be working illegally anyway if government stats have any truth in them.
The thing to remember these aren't actually asylum seekers thye are economic migrants. If we want to encourage migration lets go for skilled migration that way when automation makes everybody's lunch we will have a few people that are clever something we are clearly missing among some posters.
My beloved "if Maggie were still alive party" isn't up to much because the protagonist is dead. The tories are actually making Liebour look attractive.
The facts however are we have more arriving than homes for them to live in. How is that going to end do you think?
Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
Scotland needs more people.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostThere is plenty of lower level work in the UK, but very few people willing to do it. Most of the immigrants yes are probably economic ... seems a pretty simple solution there .. let them work and add to the economy. But then we had that with the Eastern Europeans who came here and the Wail readers were up in arms that they were taking jobs that UK born people wouldn't do anyway.
We have a chance here to help the UK economy and make the world a slightly better place for a number of people, and yet we choose not to. Very sad.
'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by vetran View Post
Sadly if we want to stop them dying on the crossing we need to discourage that route of entry.
If we allow them to work then that doesn't exactly discourage them.
Most will be working illegally anyway if government stats have any truth in them.
Originally posted by vetran View PostThe thing to remember these aren't actually asylum seekers thye are economic migrants. If we want to encourage migration lets go for skilled migration that way when automation makes everybody's lunch we will have a few people that are clever something we are clearly missing among some posters.
Originally posted by vetran View PostMy beloved "if Maggie were still alive party" isn't up to much because the protagonist is dead. The tories are actually making Liebour look attractive.
The facts however are we have more arriving than homes for them to live in. How is that going to end do you think?
The NIMBYs where I live only care if developers are not building the right type of homes. They have also complained that an industrial site that isn't at full capacity hasn't been built on.
"You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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There is an immigration system available to all. You just have to be skilled at A level in a required occupation. Maybe these people aren't that skilled? Maybe many Employers aren't willing to pay them average wage?
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-for-employers
The Skilled Worker route encompasses the majority of UK jobs eligible for overseas recruitment, providing a simple and flexible process for accessing the global talent pool.
Under the Skilled Worker route, anyone you want to hire from outside the UK will need to demonstrate that:- they have a job offer from a Home Office licensed sponsor (you)
- the job offer is at the required skill level – RQF 3 or above (A Level and equivalent)
- they speak English to the required standard
In addition to this, the job you are offering must meet the applicable minimum salary threshold. This is the higher of either:- the general salary threshold of £25,600, or
- the specific salary requirement for their occupation, known as the ‘going rate’
All applicants will be able to trade characteristics, such as their qualifications, against a lower salary to get the required number of points. If the job offer is less than the minimum salary requirement, but no less than £20,480, an applicant may still be eligible if they have:- a job offer in a specific shortage occupation
- a PhD relevant to the job
- a PhD in a STEM subject relevant to the job
There are different salary rules for workers in certain health or education jobs, and for ’new entrants’ at the start of their careers.
For further information on the ‘going rate’ for specific occupations and further exemptions, see Skilled Worker visa: going rates for eligible occupation codes.
now as I keep saying automation is going to reduce need soon. The narrative about needing younger unskilled people makes little sense in light of this.
https://www.pwc.co.uk/services/econo...n-on-jobs.html
During the first wave, we expect relatively low displacement of existing jobs, perhaps only around 3% by the early 2020s. But job displacement could increase in later waves as these technologies mature and are rolled out across the economy in increasingly autonomous form.
By the mid-2030s, up to 30% of jobs could be automatable, with slightly more men being affected in the long run as autonomous vehicles and other machines replace many manual tasks where their share of employment is higher. During the first and second waves, however, women could be at greater risk of automation due to their higher representation in clerical and other administrative functions (see chart).
These estimates are median values across 29 countries, with the UK being very close to the average.
We previously found that about half the activities people are paid to do globally could theoretically be automated using currently demonstrated technologies. Very few occupations—less than 5 percent—consist of activities that can be fully automated.
However, in about 60 percent of occupations, at least one-third of the constituent activities could be automated, implying substantial workplace transformations and changes for all workers.
Go into McDonalds / Burger King or KFC and take a look for yourself.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Are these the type of skills we want?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...tion-detention
A refugee who has just been called to the bar says she has the Home Office to thank for her career after she became an amateur legal expert while locked up in a detention centre.
Aderonke Apata, 55, from Nigeria, said she was proud to take part in a ceremony last week where she, along with dozens of other newly qualified barristers, were formally called to the bar.
Apata was almost forcibly removed from the UK on a Home Office charter flight to Nigeria in January 2013 after her asylum claim, based on the fact that as a lesbian who had been persecuted in Nigeria her life would be in danger if she was returned there, was rejected.
"You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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There's still a Tier 3 visa route in for unskilled workers such as seasonal agricultural people. There are few limits on coming here for work, where it gets tricky is when you want to bring your relations with you, which is reasonable if you consider these are for short term workers.
Or of course, when you turn up on a beach in Kent and demand somewhere to live...Blog? What blog...?Comment
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