Rishi...

[malvolio]

Tories will be out next election anyway.
Cost of living, energy bills and petrol prices, followed by high interests, the country will be in a recession next year

They have two years to address all of those problems (less three months wasted on the change of leadership process...).

Then again, Labour have the same two years to come up with both a manifesto that makes sense and a leader who is not a cardboard cut-out of Max Headroom.

And while I fear a lot of votes will go to Labour and Lib Dumbs by people who only work on personalities and the "that bloke off the telly" effect, it's still all to play for.

[Chris Bryce]

cardboard cut-out of Max Headroom.

That's very insulting...



...to the hugely entertaining Max Headroom.

[SueEllen]

Grant Shapps (or is it Micheal Green) is standing.

The hopeless need to stand down so a boring yet competent person is chosen so we can all just concentrate on policies rather than personalities.

[Fraidycat]

Wallace has opted out. Bugger....

Probably a good thing, he was a bit fat and and had a potato head. And it didn't look like he had the carisma to make up for it.

[SueEllen]

Probably a good thing, he was a bit fat and and had a potato head. And it didn't look like he had the carisma to make up for it.

We don't need charisma we need competence.

He seems competent and plain enough speaking.

[SueEllen]

Enjoy Henley Festival 8 July 2022

[Fraidycat]

We don't need charisma we need competence.

But voters want either a leader who looks the part of being a prime minister, or has carisma
If the candidate has neither they are not going to win against someone who has one or both if it looks like being a close race in the polls.

Ian Duncan Smith, Ed Milliband, Corbyn, William Hague. Probably the worst ever was Michael foot. All too nerdy.

Keir might not have much carisma but at least he looks the part.
So has a good chance of beating a Tory candidate who has neither.

[xoggoth]

But voters want either a leader who looks the part of being a prime minister, or has carisma

Too true unfortunately. Like SE, I'd much rather have a boring but competent PM who thinks things out before acting and is guided by realities, not daft ideals. I rather liked Ian Duncan Smith and William Hague, sensible blokes.

PS And someone who can spell charisma.

[Gibbon]

They have two years to address all of those problems (less three months wasted on the change of leadership process...).

Then again, Labour have the same two years to come up with both a manifesto that makes sense and a leader who is not a cardboard cut-out of Max Headroom.

And while I fear a lot of votes will go to Labour and Lib Dumbs by people who only work on personalities and the "that bloke off the telly" effect, it's still all to play for.

With the Krankie banging the drum again the same fears of 2015 (a Lab/SNP coalition) will rear its head. Labour can only realistically get in through a coalition. I don't think the Libs will get back to 40+ seats for them to be viable either. Also Labour have the 'what to do about Angela' problem, she's not very popular outside the hard core Labour vote.

[quackhandle]

And while I fear a lot of votes will go to Labour and Lib Dumbs by people who only work on personalities and the "that bloke off the telly" effect, it's still all to play for.

You can have all the think tanks on why people vote, deep studies on fiscal policy and yet there are so many people who simply vote like this.

"I liked his hair."
"She wore some nice shoes."

Probably the same as people who bet on horses just because they like the colour of the owner's silks or the horse's name.

God help if you get filmed eating a burger a bit messy.

qh