The new prime minister is.....

[mattster]

And finally, they aren't our problem - if anything they are France's problem; the ones coming here legally with a genuine reason to do so (family, persecution, whatever) are our problem.

There is no viable legal route for the vast majority of asylum seekers, and there is no law that states asylum must be sought in the first safe state an asylum seeker reaches.

[vetran]

Why not send them to Rwanda. The bulk are young men, they have all ignored the legal routes int the country which wouldn't debar genuine cases, they have instead given money to criminals to ship them across here where we don't know who they are, where there is nowhere for them to live, where they will not be adding anything to the UK economy and they can't be shipped back to France (the logical step) because Macron thinks he's God and France is Elysium. To this old reactionary, shipping them off to somewhere safe to try again seem eminently sensible

and safer if it stops them crossing in defective dinghys

[vetran]

There is no viable legal route for the vast majority of asylum seekers, and there is no law that states asylum must be sought in the first safe state an asylum seeker reaches.

there is a law now that states if you don't seek asylum in a safe country and move illegally to the UK you won't get asylum that is why Rwanda is their destination. If you don't like it then get the law changed.

[vetran]

You're the one listening to too much Tory propaganda.

You say ship them all to Rwanda, it's only run by an ex-terrorist, and then you say that we should deal with the ones who have a genuine reason to stay

...but who are the genuine ones if we ship them all to Rwanda in the first place?

The problem is that the far right have convinced anyone that a centrist viewpoint is terrible. If we have a shortage of workers, why do we imprison ALL asylum seekers? Why not have some of them doing the jobs that need doing, earning money, and paying more tax than the average Tory MP?

Hey we could send them to NI or Ireland would that be better?

I understand the horror of living in France but it does seem a little much to claim asylum in the UK having come here illegally.

Which ones do you think are genuine if they don't claim asylum in France and wait years there until they can sneak into the UK?

[WTFH]

Hey we could send them to NI or Ireland would that be better?

I was quoting Mal.

[malvolio]

That's easy. The ones in the dinghies and trucks aren't asylum seekers, they are illegal immigrants. We have no obligations towards them other than not risking their lives.

[WTFH]

I understand the horror of living in France but it does seem a little much to claim asylum in the UK having come here illegally.

Which ones do you think are genuine if they don't claim asylum in France and wait years there until they can sneak into the UK?

Which human beings that are seeking asylum speak English as one of their languages, better than French?

[vetran]

I was quoting Mal.

Actually you rephrased it so you weren't quoting.

I was only pointing out many countries are run by ex terrorists, some even get a Nobel peace prize!

[WTFH]

Actually you rephrased it so you weren't quoting.

I was only pointing out many countries are run by ex terrorists, some even get a Nobel peace prize!

Excellent, since Northern Ireland has had ex-terrorists running it, you think we should send immigrants to (checks notes...) the UK.

[vetran]

Excellent, since Northern Ireland has had ex-terrorists running it, you think we should send immigrants to (checks notes...) the UK.

hey you were the one who felt sending illegal immigrants to a land run by ex terrorists was unacceptable.