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Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
My question is what of that 1% could be avoided by people wearing masks and taking care. Reaching that by people trying to make a living and keeping their business/income afloat is completely different to arriving at that figure because people won't wear a mask and respect social distancing when going about whatever they do. One is a balance, the other is inexcusable.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostI'm not being complacent, and that is a question that should have a somewhat concrete answer IMO. In the most recent reporting period, about 1% of deaths were Covid: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ding25june2021
Is that a lot, or insignificant, or neither? What should we be comparing it to?
Quote from one of the docs, from an article in the Guardian here:
“It’s hard to escape a prediction that 100,000 new infections a day equates to 10,000 to 20,000 long Covid cases a day, especially in young people. That’s a lot of damage to a lot of lives. And it’s hard to see that we’d have the healthcare provision to deal with it on that scale,” said Danny Altmann, a professor of immunology at Imperial. “All of us working on this could not be more alarmed.”Comment
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Long Covid won't be Tory Govt problem because they'll be out of power for a long time, hopefully foreverComment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostLong Covid won't be Tory Govt problem because they'll be out of power for a long time, hopefully foreverComment
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Originally posted by mattster View Post10k people a day avoidably succumbing to a long term debilitating condition. Let's hope they work out how to treat it.
On NLUK's question, I suppose the government is quite clearly saying that 20+ deaths a day IS an acceptable cost to ending restrictions. Extrapolating suggests 100 a day is quite plausible for a period. They seem to be using the argument "we told you opening up would mean more deaths" as justification to go ahead, which is quite strange, but ultimately government DOES have to decide how many lives justify shutting down the country for. Someone must have to address that question head-on even though the politicians are going to skirt around it, and report on it.
Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by mattster View Post
How so? They're ahead in the polls now, by quite some margin, as hard as that is to believe. Until we get a real opposition, we're stuck with them.
Only when the majority are fed up of the government does it change colour.
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostThey're really suggesting up to 1 in 5 could have serious long-term effects?
If 25% of them have immune system or major organ issues like heart problems like Dr Xand* then it's a problem.
However of 90% just can't smell it isn't.
*Dr Xand children's tv presenter who is an identical twin doctor. He has heart issues from Covid. Did a documentary on his Covid issues where his heart had to jumped back into normal rhythm."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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"Boris Johnson urges Covid caution amid warnings of 1,000 hospitalisations a day
PM recommends mask use and gradual return to workplaces as Sage models highlight potential pressures on NHS"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...isations-a-day
1000 per day will be within a week and this is virus still going through young age groups.Comment
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One of the press questions in this evening's briefing mentioned "government models predicting 100-200 daily deaths at the peak" and I don't think this was challenged. So that's a level that is deemed acceptable, we can infer.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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