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    Now even a pro-leave Tory MP is starting to talk our leaders down. Doesn't he realise how competitive we are with the adjusted GBP as we sail into the open waters as a proud trading nation once more?

    A pro-leave Tory MP has applied for an urgent debate on Brexit in an attempt to prevent the government from negotiating the terms for leaving the EU without consulting parliament.

    Stephen Phillips, who voted to leave in the referendum, said the government appeared intent on negotiating “without any regard to the House of Commons” in a way that was “fundamentally undemocratic, unconstitutional and cuts across the rights and privileges of the legislature”.

    Phillips said: “I and many others did not exercise our vote in the referendum so as to restore the sovereignty of this parliament only to see what we regarded as the tyranny of the European Union replaced by that of a government that apparently wishes to ignore the views of the house on the most important issue facing the nation.”


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    Phillips said he voted to leave for reasons of restoring sovereignty but was not a supporter of the official leave campaign.

    The barrister, a member of the public accounts committee, said it was apparent after the Conservative party conference that the government had no intention of consulting parliament about its negotiating aims, and this was “simply not an acceptable way for the executive to proceed”.

    He said Theresa May’s government had “no authority or mandate to adopt a negotiating position without reference to the wishes of the house and those of the British people expressed through their elected representatives”.

    He has written to the Speaker, John Bercow, to request the urgent debate for this week, which will be ruled on later on Monday.
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...sh-hard-brexit

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      Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
      They want a higher standard of living. The first that happens is they now can't afford a foreign holiday....

      A good start.

      Have a holiday in the UK then. Or go to Scotland, they need the tourism.
      Originally posted by MaryPoppins
      I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
      Originally posted by vetran
      Urine is quite nourishing

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        It's business as usual in the post-Brexit world | Coffee House

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          As long as we get back full control of our borders, we can all be happy.

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            Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
            They want a higher standard of living. The first thing that happens is they now can't afford a foreign holiday....

            A good start.

            You tell em
            Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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              Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
              As long as we get back full control of our borders, we can all be happy.
              Sovereignty first.

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                And OG returns and starts quoting the Grauniad again. Pavlov's Dog.
                “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                  Originally posted by GB9 View Post
                  Sovereignty first.
                  Of course EU citizens will have freedom of movement into Ireland and then border free travel into the UK, but we can't have everything. The principle of border control is important in itself, even if not exercised.

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                    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
                    Of course EU citizens will have freedom of movement into Ireland and then border free travel into the UK, but we can't have everything. The principle of border control is important in itself, even if not exercised.
                    So you believe that the UK should have open borders?
                    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                      Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                      The whole point is that the large % of the population that you and the rest of the lefty liberals sneer at are directly affected by the EU. It is not your child coming fresh from UNI that is having to compete with 10,000 EU graduates for a graduate role at Marks&Spencer, Atkins, IBM, Ariva is it? The working class and their offspring are not only having to compete for jobs from hordes of eastern Europeans but they are also facing competition for schools, housing and healthcare too.
                      Whilst the middle classes enjoy the cheap builders, cheap nannies, cheap cleaners etc we ignore the deep social problems that affect the lower classes (we can just chuck em some welfare and share their tiny houses with their entire families). Brexit has given these people the opportunity to be heard.
                      The middle classes are competing with those from Europe as you put it.

                      Being middle class in the UK isn't based solely on income like in the US. So you get plumbers and footballers earning far more than teachers and civil servants, but the former aren't considered middle class.

                      Anyway so there are plenty of middle class uni students who are having to live at home with mum and dad into their 20s, 30s and even going back there in their 40s when their relationships break up.
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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