[Merged]Brexit stuff

[GB9]

Since when did Britain become a continent?

A small part of me believes you're being serious.

I thought your nationality was defined by the country you were born in, not the continent.

[GB9]

Why should they? We threw the first punch.

It's like the estranged wife seeking separation whilst dodging assault from her partner demanding respect.

So if your wife decides she wants to leave is it right that she should be punished? that just echoes the threats made by the Remain campaign before the election i.e. we couldn't live without them and we would pay the price.

I know it's difficult to act grown up when you have been dumped, but for the good of its people the EU Commission and a few heads of state need to act like grown ups and not jilted wives.

[scooterscot]

I thought your nationality was defined by the country you were born in, not the continent.

So I'm Scottish now. Thought I was British. Which is it union master?

[GB9]

So I'm Scottish now. Thought I was British. Which is it union master?

Personally I would say you are Scottish. I am English. We may well have a British passport but you were born in Scotland (I believe).

If you were born in Sweden would you be Swedish or Scandinavian?

Edit: Maybe a better question. If you were born in Norway. Norwegian, Scandinavian or European?

[stek]

Personally I would say you are Scottish. I am English. We may well have a British passport but you were born in Scotland (I believe).

If you were born in Sweden would you be Swedish or Scandinavian?

Edit: Maybe a better question. If you were born in Norway. Norwegian, Scandinavian or European?

Exactly my point, the concept of nationhood is outdated in this connected smaller world.

[GB9]

This court action is mainly driven by senile hypocrites living in Spain and France and voted to drive all the foreigners out of Britain.

Good luck to them, everyone is entitled to challenge the democratic institutions.

So an unelected President who can illegally issue a decree is democracy? We shall see.

As for the senile hypocrites, maybe so. But the ones challenging Brexit in the UK seem to fall into he same category.

[NotAllThere]

I thought your nationality was defined by the country you were born in...

This not the case.

You're British if one of your parents is British, or you were born to parents settled in Britain (that means either IDLR or EU citizenship, resident in the UK for 10 (IDLR) or 5 (EU) or more years). Simply being born in Britain isn't sufficient. If a child is born abroad to British parents, it's important to get that child registered as a British citizen, otherwise their children will not be able to claim British citizenship.

In Europe, only Ireland, France and Germany have similarly restricted conferring of citizenship to people born there. All others, your nationality is by descent, and is the most common law worldwide.

My own view is that you're English if you were born and raised in England, and are British. If you weren't born in England/Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland, but have acquired British citizenship, then you're just British. As far as I can tell, under law, there is no concept of English etc. nationality. But I'll be happy to be corrected.

[DodgyAgent]

Exactly my point, the concept of nationhood is outdated in this connected smaller world.

If you think that then you are a bigger fool than we already think you are.

[DodgyAgent]

Exactly my point, the concept of nationhood is outdated in this connected smaller world.

If you think that then you are a bigger fool than we already think you are.

[GB9]

This not the case.

You're British if one of your parents is British, or you were born to parents settled in Britain (that means either IDLR or EU citizenship, resident in the UK for 10 (IDLR) or 5 (EU) or more years). Simply being born in Britain isn't sufficient. If a child is born abroad to British parents, it's important to get that child registered as a British citizen, otherwise their children will not be able to claim British citizenship.

In Europe, only Ireland, France and Germany have similarly restricted conferring of citizenship to people born their. All others, your nationality is by descent, and is the most common law worldwide.

My own view is that you're English if you were born and raised in England, and are British. If you weren't born in England/Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland, but have acquired British citizenship, then you're just British. As far as I can tell, under law, there is no concept of English etc. nationality. But I'll be happy to be corrected.

'All others, your nationality is by descent' - just for clarification, does that mean that if I someone British had children in Canada and then they subsequently had children in Canada, those children would not be Canadian but still British? I'm not doubting your answer, just clarifying my understanding.