In or Out?

[scooterscot]

75% of our laws are made in Brussels and our Traitor-in-Chief has to go cap in hand to the Germans, Poles et al just to change the DSS rules in our own country. It's all about sovereignty and anyone that is voting "Remain" has a touch of the Quislings about them in my book.

At the time of the Lisbon Treaty I actually wrote to Her Maj to say she had no right to assent to the giving away of powers that she'd sworn to protect. Needless to say I got some old waffle back that meant the square root of naff all.

I'm off to my club now and I shall be harrumphing loudly along the way.

We have a parliament, an un-democratic house of lords, we can make up any law we like.

[d000hg]

Top 5 most deprived areas in the UK and their respective political masters:

1- Tendring - Conservative
2 - Blackpool - Labour
3 - Thanet - UKIP but looks like will shortly be Conservative
4- Coventry - Labour
5 - Waveny - No overall control but previously Conservative

Source? I thought Rochdale, Middlesborough and one or two places in Scotland were normally fighting for top spot.

75% of our laws are made in Brussels

Source?

and our Traitor-in-Chief has to go cap in hand to the Germans, Poles et al just to change the DSS rules in our own country.

Oh pur-leaze

[xoggoth]

Good article in The Guardian:

How quickly could Britain apply the EU emergency brake on benefits? | Politics | The Guardian

If Britons vote to leave the EU, the issue is redundant. If they vote to stay, the settled verdict means that the European commission, council and parliament will be in no hurry to effect the legislation needed for Cameron’s benefits curbs.
...
The conditions surrounding the emergency brake mean that a government has to notify the European commission, which then examines the request before passing it to the EU council of 28 governments, where a green light will probably require a qualified majority.

This agreement is virtually worthless in other words.

[SueEllen]

Good article in The Guardian:

How quickly could Britain apply the EU emergency brake on benefits? | Politics | The Guardian



This agreement is virtually worthless in other words.

But we all knew that.

It's up to the UK government to change benefit rules to include a previous residency requirement. If they want people to have been in the UK for 4 years then put that in the rules.

[Troll]

Interesting... of the 17 voting in

AtW,
Danglekt,
DaveB,
diseasex,
DS23,
Eirikur,
GlenW,
NibblyPig,
NickFitz,
NotAllThere,
scooterscot,
Scrag Meister,
seanraaron,
SimonMac,
Uncle Albert,
VectraMan,
VFV

How many are immigrants, ex pats or paid trolls?

Anyway ban 'em all

[NigelJK]

Top 5 most deprived areas in the UK and their respective political masters:

1- Tendring - Conservative
2 - Blackpool - Labour
3 - Thanet - UKIP but looks like will shortly be Conservative
4- Coventry - Labour
5 - Waveny - No overall control but previously Conservative

As per d000hg, source please.

My experience working for the Wythenshaw Trust was that the then current statistics (2010) were based on Wards (AKA voting wards). Of the top 28, 26 were in Manchester. Wythenshaw has more in the top 10 than any other District.

Here's the 2015 version:
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...al_Release.pdf

Quote form the headlines:

Middlesbrough, Knowlesley, Kingston upon Hull, Liverpool
and Manchester are the local authorities with the highest
proportions of neighbourhoods among the most deprived
in England

Middlesbrough - Large Labour majority for the last 3 elections.
Knowlesley - No other party expect Labour on the council (Press report on 19 'wins'
Kingston-Upon-Hull - Large Labour majority since 2011
Liverpool - Massive Labour majority since 2010 (Note that when it 'won' European City of the year' or gained 'World heritage' status it was run by the LibDems)
Manchester - 100% Labour currently and large labour majority since 1988

[d000hg]

It may be incorrect to say that deprivation and poverty happen in Labour run areas as cause and effect. More likely, it's the other way round - poor people vote Labour.

[scooterscot]

Interesting... of the 17 voting in



How many are immigrants, ex pats or paid trolls?

Anyway ban 'em all

As always, the desperate divide whilst the unspoken thrive.

[The_Equalizer]

As always, the desperate divide whilst the unspoken thrive.

That said Troll does have a point. You're clearly for an independent Scotland so you've not really got the interests of the United Kingdom at heart. I have a sneaky feeling that there are a number of people in this camp - think 'Lord' Mandelson. Then again, you might just force another Scottish indy ref if there's Brexit. Oh the quandary!

[NigelJK]

poor people vote Labour.

Well there's a whole discussion right there about 'policy tactics' of all of the Parties.

The odd ball in the list (as the others have been staunch Labour majority councils since forever, through Thatcher, Blair etc) is Liverpool which went LibDem in the late 80's and early 90's and in that time regenerated the docklands and re-invigorated the city centre (and their plans are still being rolled out, even if they are hamstrung by the current incumbents).