Advice - no work to do, client sending me home

[mattster]

They don’t want to pay they’ve said if it is still going on next week may get something ...but no guarantee of what it won’t be a full day’s pay and won’t cover the days lost...do I call their bluff and say pay me or I am looking elsewhere ??

Just look elsewhere.

[cojak]

There is no bluff - they won’t care. Hand in your notice and find another contract.

[northernladuk]

They don’t want to pay they’ve said if it is still going on next week may get something ...but no guarantee of what it won’t be a full day’s pay and won’t cover the days lost...do I call their bluff and say pay me or I am looking elsewhere ??

Most definitely start looking. You've got nothing to lose. Two things could happen with your client. They suddenly pop up with work soon then fine or they carry this on for two or more weeks and you've nothing. At least looking in the mean time if the latter happens you're already looking. You have zero decision to make at this point as you've nothing on the table. Get some options and then make the decision. Sitting around doing nothing at all isn't helping you one iota.

And to be fair, you really need to be shot of this lot so get looking.

[Cookielove]

Thanks all good advice ! Am on it....

[d000hg]

There is no bluff - they won’t care. Hand in your notice and find another contract.

I would look without giving notice. They might sort themselves out before you get something, and if they don't they can't really kick up any sort of fuss that you terminate the contract when there's nothing to do. They might well be pleased.

[simes]

This seems to be a classic case of an unknowing client wanting a contractor, to treat them like a contractor, but to pay them as an employee with absolutely no clue as to the implications. And I am seeing examples of this ignorance all over.

Granted, we are in a sticky situation where no one, you the OP, go crying to will give a damn nor be able to resolve. From my point of view, if it's Inside, there is MoO and so you should be found something to do and be paid. If it was Outside, then there is no MoO, you suck it up and await something to do, to be given to you.

Otherwise, mention this to the agent as being 'four letter expletive', and start looking elsewhere today.

[d000hg]

How is "there's no work you're not getting paid" being aid like an employee? This is a dream gig for a permie, you get salaried for nowt

[northernladuk]

This seems to be a classic case of an unknowing client wanting a contractor, to treat them like a contractor, but to pay them as an employee with absolutely no clue as to the implications.

They don't pay them as an employee, they get taxed as an employee by the gov so you are off on the wrong foot before you've even started.

From my point of view, if it's Inside, there is MoO and so you should be found something to do and be paid.

Well you would be wrong then. There are many reasons for being inside, the most usual will be RoS which never really worked in the old days of outside. Could be direction and control or it could be just the client playing safe and saying inside. The contracts will broadly be the same inside or outside as it's a tax position not a contractual one. Some elements will be different as they don't need to meet outside requirements but it's still a T&M contract for services and it's still likely to have the no work no pay clause. A client would be an idiot to leave that out even if it is inside. Which ever tax status it is, it is still a T&M contract. Got squat to do with MoO really. What you are describing is an FTE contract which is a whole different ball game.

Otherwise, mention this to the agent as being 'four letter expletive', and start looking elsewhere today.

A better thing to do is check the contract and see if it is in there, which it will be and carry on without being unprofessional.

And I am seeing examples of this ignorance all over.

Us too but we aren't looking beyond your post

[SussexSeagull]

If you are not already doing so then start looking for a new contract What they are doing might be quite legal but it isn't on.

[eek]

What they are doing might be quite legal but it isn't on.

The story of about half my conversations at the moment