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[simes]

Yup, I'm in one.

Also my sister, a PM contractor, is in an Outside contract. Different methods, but both instigated by a couple of responsible clients in entirely different industries....

[simes]

Ape, I am interested in the outcome of this as much as the last thread you posted.

Please this time come back with responses and communication to those who are offering help and advice.

Thanks.

[simes]

Is the chap not talking about being assigned an email address with his client's suffix? Not his own LtdCo email address, which he may or may not have?

Either way, if he's not assigned a client based email address, that would likely help his Outside status and thus all email goes to his...

[simes]

Yup, good points all.

From a contractor's point of view, this might not be so far removed from where s/he is right now (these last six days to D Day). This of, IR35 looming large and over them.

I am then minded to query, if the decision went against the client and monies were...

[simes]

Even if there was insurance a contractor would take to shunt it further down the line? If an Outside determination is possible in this scenario, then would it be commercially viable to go with this method? Without further information, particularly the insurance a contractor would need, it might bear...

[simes]

This is very very interesting.

A year or two ago, in trying to figure ways around, or through, Inside IR35 determinations, I wondered if your situation would, or could, ever be introduced to a contract, either at the contractor's behest to encourage an Outside determination, or by the client...

[simes]

How much of the chap's story did you actually read...??...

[simes]

I did have a good chuckle over that news item this morning.

Bless 'em. Perhaps if The HMRC had spent more time nit picking their own laws they wouldn't have embarrassingly taken so many contractors to court, and lost.

In good time the majority of clients will come around to...

[simes]

I am fine with zero days notice. To get a rate rise, I have even negotiated for such in the contract to sweeten something or other.

Does zero days notice help in any way towards some Outside type consideration? Not sure.

[simes]

I don't think we need to be too hard on him.

If the Lords themselves can't get heard, and they are sitting in the very same camp, what chance any other Tom, Dick or Mutton?...

[simes]

Bearing in mind the majority of clients are not even using CEST, and that those clients who are engaging are probably brand new to all this and are solely listening to the HMRC party line, which is one of, 'Use CEST', I personally would not want to start a conversation with a likely already nervous...

[simes]

Agreed with the advice.

If you (OP) are being asked to engage as such with your own responses, I'd take that as, a client who is willing to properly engage with the reforms. So many other clients are not willing to engage or learn, use this as an opportunity to speak frankly and knowledgably...

[simes]

Might take contractors closer to being consultancies that are always subject to penalty clauses etc. If it's enough to move the IR35 dial, I'd be fine with it.

But, it would have to be deliverable based and not some arbitrary clock watching scheme.

Might work.