State of the Market

[BlueSharp]

i doubt it, i've know places like the MOJ have been getting around the public sector IR35 by putting in-place a middleman with their contractors (consultancies etc).

But they don't need to pay a middle man/consultancy anymore, the PM's can run their own projects without the consultancy politics.

[GigiBronz]

It could be a foolish question, but does IR35 in any way apply to larger consultancies that supply bodies to the client but in terms of the 3 pillars and respect them only partially? Sure they have the right of substitution but direction and control is always there...

[eek]

It could be a foolish question, but does IR35 in any way apply to larger consultancies that supply bodies to the client but in terms of the 3 pillars and respect them only partially? Sure they have the right of substitution but direction and control is always there...

Substitution is all that is required.

[simes]

It could be a foolish question, but does IR35 in any way apply to larger consultancies that supply bodies to the client but in terms of the 3 pillars and respect them only partially? Sure they have the right of substitution but direction and control is always there...

It could as easily be a foolish answer...

If not following the 'guidance', or lack thereof from HMRC, and then following the 'trend' as started by the banks, so long as the large or indeed Any sized consultancy does not use PSC contractors then all this IR35 stuff is not in any way relevant to consultancies or their clients.

[GigiBronz]

Substitution is all that is required.

They receive an hourly rate for bum on seat type of contractor. About 30% of the rate goes to consultancy employee and rest to the company. I would surely like the full amount to be taxed as it is in our case. And their contract and practices with the client are in a very similar way like ours. Question is, if that is the case,why it is not affecting them?

Only being about substitution, sounds a bit too little.

[LondonManc]

so, how come you're still on here then, 2 years later?

I'm not here for the contracting advice, don't worry about that!!!

I quietly left for a while but missed watching NLUK v PC.

[eek]

so, how come you're still on here then, 2 years later?

Does it really matter? atw has never been a contractor - he went from phones4u (as a permie) to majestic without contracting at any point.

[BR14]

Does it really matter? atw has never been a contractor - he went from phones4u (as a permie) to majestic without contracting at any point.

he's a wine merchant?

[ladymuck]

he's a wine merchant?

Definitely some kind of merchant

[BlueSharp]

he's a whine merchant?

FTFY