oh dear: Theresa May urged to set her departure date by ministers

[vetran]

As many conservative voters voted for her as CUK posters voted for you to be mod.

Which is the number of CUK posters who think you are a better mod than MF. Or think you are more intelligent than sasguru.

OK I think you set the bar too low. I have to correct you.

All the Mods are better than MF as a mod and WTFH's dog's droppings are cleverer than Assgoo.

Though WTFH & NAT are probably behind the Dog on intelligence.

[Whorty]

If Juncker had not won, the election would have been repeated until he had won.

Scary thing is, you actually believe this rubbish.

[WTFH]

WTFH seems to want all MPs to vote on who becomes Conservative leader.......

No, but I would prefer a cross-party team to be doing the Brexit negotiations on behalf of the country. The referendum was not based on parties, the process of exiting should have been done outwith party politics.

[vetran]

Scary thing is, you actually believe this rubbish.

Can't imagine why

Brendan O'Neill: Asking the Irish to vote again on the Lisbon treaty is arrogant, insulting and undemocratic | Opinion | The Guardian

Imagine if, following the election of Barack Obama by 52.9% of American voters, the Republican party, which got just 45.7% of votes, demanded another election. Imagine if the Republicans described Obama's victory as a "triumph of ignorance" – brought about by an "unspeakable" and "ignorant" mass of people who should have been "swatted away by the forces of the establishment" – and insisted on holding a second election so that, this time, the voters could "get it right".
There would be uproar, outrage, widespread disgust at such elite disdain for the democratic process. Well, now you know how the Irish people must feel. In June this year, 53.4% of Irish voters rejected the Lisbon treaty, against 46.6% who supported it (giving the "No" camp a "sweeping victory" similar to Obama's). Yet now the Irish will be asked to vote again. EU officials' behind-doors deal to force a second referendum inIrelandreveals their utter contempt for Irish voters, and for democracy itself. It is an historic sucker punch against the sovereignty of the people.

Don't forget the Loser's Vote all the remainers are campaigning for.

[vetran]

No, but I would prefer a cross-party team to be doing the Brexit negotiations on behalf of the country. The referendum was not based on parties, the process of exiting should have been done outwith party politics.

Agree with that. Pity they didn't want to do it.

[Whorty]

I will try again for the hard of thinking or male mods as we call them! (Admin not included).




The party members did not vote as Leadsom withdrew.

so in this case May was elected first by the people of Maidenhead (more than Drunker) then to the last two by the conservative elected MPs. Before party members could vote on which of the 2 democratically elected candidates would win one withdrew.

So yes she was more democratically elected than Drunker, first by the public then by elected representatives.

Luckily the Lib Dems are looking to remove this hurdle and propose allowing anyone to become leader! I suppose they want to be as close to the EU as possible.

You guys really are dumb and believe all this propaganda.

Our government, along with all the other governments in the EU, were elected by it's people (that's you an I, if you're not sure) to make decisions on our behalf. One such decision our government made was to help shape and define the rules that govern the running of the EU (we have a veto, so any rules we don't like we can stop from becoming law). The elected governments set the democratic rules of how the EU will run. One such rule was that each democratic country would have MEPs represent them in the European Parliament. The other rule is that those democratically elected MEPs will vote (democratically) on our behalf for the head of the EU.

Now, admittedly, I've given a big clue in the above and used the 'D' word quite a bit, but pray, do tell, which part of this Democratic process that we have signed up to (we gave our MPs the right to govern on our behalf) isn't democratic?

Like many Brexitidiots you think democracy means you get to vote on every decision, but that is not how it works. We vote representatives (MPs, MEPs, local councilors) to make decisions on our behalf. If you don't like that, then campaign for a new way for our democracy to work. Until then, STFU you winging idiots.

[GreenMirror]

Scary thing is, you actually believe this rubbish.

The EU has form. About as democratic as Hitler.

[GreenMirror]

You guys really are dumb and believe all this propaganda.

Our government, along with all the other governments in the EU, were elected by it's people (that's you an I, if you're not sure) to make decisions on our behalf. One such decision our government made was to help shape and define the rules that govern the running of the EU (we have a veto, so any rules we don't like we can stop from becoming law). The elected governments set the democratic rules of how the EU will run. One such rule was that each democratic country would have MEPs represent them in the European Parliament. The other rule is that those democratically elected MEPs will vote (democratically) on our behalf for the head of the EU.

Now, admittedly, I've given a big clue in the above and used the 'D' word quite a bit, but pray, do tell, which part of this Democratic process that we have signed up to (we gave our MPs the right to govern on our behalf) isn't democratic?

Like many Brexitidiots you think democracy means you get to vote on every decision, but that is not how it works. We vote representatives (MPs, MEPs, local councilors) to make decisions on our behalf. If you don't like that, then campaign for a new way for our democracy to work. Until then, STFU you winging idiots.

The EU is entitled to do what it wants. The UK is out. Thank God.

[GreenMirror]

No, but I would prefer a cross-party team to be doing the Brexit negotiations on behalf of the country. The referendum was not based on parties, the process of exiting should have been done outwith party politics.

I agree with that.

However the EU is not interested in negotiation. Its no-deal all the way.

[WTFH]

Its no-deal all the way.

Isn't that what JRM, BoJo, et al want?