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oh dear: Theresa May urged to set her departure date by ministers

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    #51
    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Typical disinformation from the leave side. The 2 Irish votes were not the same. Linky . Linking as you do to biased commentaries, which of all things includes a quote from that idiot Galloway, doesn't constitute the truth. It constitutes someones opinion and your'e too dumb to see it as such.

    The first vote was on the standard Lisbon Treaty. The Irish rejected this. The second vote included amendments to that Treaty that, given the massive swing to acceptance clearly shows the Irish people are not as zealot as you leavers. The Irish were not anti EU or didn't want to leave the EU.

    Rubbish that you linked to suggest the Irish voters were forced to change their mind and that the second vote was simply a re-run of the first. It was not. Following the changes put forward in the second Treaty the Irish people decided, by a large majority, to accept this.

    You Brexidiots wouldn't understand how this works though. You are so blinkered in your hatred and fear of the devils and phantoms in the EU that you will vote against them whatever they offered. If they came back and said we could stay 'in' but with all the benefits and changes that we want to feel like we're out, you'd still vote to leave, because it's not the regulations you're against, it fundamentally is your little England xenophobia that drives you.

    We can see by the Irish votes that they are sensible and open minded. They voted no, asked for changes to allow them to vote yes, got these changes and duly voted yes.

    Next ....
    I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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      #52
      Originally posted by Whorty View Post
      Our government, along with all the other governments in the EU, were elected by it's people (that's you an I, if you're not sure) to make decisions on our behalf. One such decision our government made was to offer the Electorate a Referendum in which they could choose to either stay within the EU, or choose to Leave the EU. The Referendum was held and the people voted to LEAVE the EU. That fact having been established, those who LOST the vote should stop being such a churlish bunch of whingeing cretins and get behind this democratic decision.
      ftfy

      “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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        #53
        Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
        ftfy

        The advisory referendum that was not legally binding (based on our democracy)?

        I'm behind the decision to leave. I don't think a second ref is a good idea as nothing good will come out of it (unless remain wins by 60:40). I'm interested to see where this takes us now.
        I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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          #54
          Originally posted by WTFH View Post
          Isn't that what JRM, BoJo, et al want?
          No that is what you think they want, they actually objected to the chequers deal and said no deal would be better.
          Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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            #55
            Originally posted by vetran View Post
            No that is what you think they want, they actually objected to the chequers deal and said no deal would be better.
            Do you think no-deal would be better?
            Hard Brexit now!
            #prayfornodeal

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              #56
              Originally posted by sasguru View Post
              Do you think no-deal would be better?
              Come on SAS, you know he can't think
              I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                #57
                Originally posted by GreenMirror View Post
                Its no-deal all the way.
                Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                Isn't that what JRM, BoJo, et al want?
                Originally posted by vetran View Post
                No that is what you think they want, they actually objected to the chequers deal and said no deal would be better.
                So, what do they want, if they don't want no deal?
                …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                  Do you think no-deal would be better?
                  of course not.

                  How about a Canada +++ deal?

                  Brexit news latest: Donald Tusk urges UK to accept offer of 'Canada +++' Brexit deal which has 'been on the table since the very beginning' | London Evening Standard


                  Speaking to reporters, Mr Tusk first explained that the UK could have not just a free trade accord like that with Canada but also extremely close relations in security, foreign policy and other areas.He said: ""The EU wants a relationship with the UK that is as close and special as possible.
                  "From the very beginning, the EU offer has been not just a Canada deal, but a Canada plus plus plus deal."
                  apparently that has been on the table from the beginning.

                  Which is weird as when offered in March it was considerably fettered. It seems the EU likes cherry picking when they are doing it.

                  Brexit latest: EU rules out bespoke UK trade deal and says NO to full access to markets for the City | London Evening Standard

                  The document calls for free trade in goods, where the EU exports more to Britain than it imports, but omits the banking and financial services, where UK has a £20 billion surplus.Britain would not be allowed to slash company taxes, bail out struggling industries or axe costly environmental protection, the text says, as they could give the UK an “unfair competitive advantage”.
                  The EU also demands the right to fish in British waters on a reciprocal basis.
                  Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                    Come on SAS, you know he can't think

                    well we know you can't be funny!
                    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                      #60
                      Canada+++ is totally tariff free, frictionless trade of maple syrop

                      HTH

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