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[Merged]Brexit stuff (part 2)
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostWow, you are DEEPLY OFFENSIVE.
Those who fought in the Great War, the Second World War and the other wars/battles which are remembered on 11/11, they fought to keep us free. Free from racism. Free from religious intolerance. Free from hatred. Free from living in fear.
If you think that everyone who voted to remain disagrees with that, you are so wildly wrong.
You are disgusting.
Remainers do not necessarily disagree with this but they clearly fail to have learnt the lessons from history.Last edited by DodgyAgent; 1 November 2016, 10:45.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by milanbenes View Postthe EU is not going to unfold, the EU is a project, and actually I find the whole Brexit saga very positive because yes, the EU does need reforming and yes the EU is over doing things in certain directions, and thanks to the UK escalating it is forcing the EU to look inwardly and think about what can be improved, so no arguments there.
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I think if anyone should fear Brexit, it is the other EU countries. We will survive and prosper on our own, whatever the result of the negotiations, of that I have no doubt whatsoever. There is a whole world out there to build trading links with.
The pain will come from politicians who want to punish us, to make a point, rather than to negotiate what is best for everybody. EU citizens and EU companies will be collateral damage as your negotiators try to hurt us.Comment
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oh no, we're going to debate modern history now for the next few hours, why the wars started, who fought who and why.
War historians, can you please start a new thread and debate the history of the first and second wars peacefully in your own thread.
Ta,
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Originally posted by Chuck View PostI think the problem is that that is exactly what the EU is not doing. There is still no sense that the EU politicians think any sort of reform is required. They see us as a problem, perhaps with some justification, as we do not want to slavishly follow their club rules.
I think if anyone should fear Brexit, it is the other EU countries. We will survive and prosper on our own, whatever the result of the negotiations, of that I have no doubt whatsoever. There is a whole world out there to build trading links with.
The pain will come from politicians who want to punish us, to make a point, rather than to negotiate what is best for everybody. EU citizens and EU companies will be collateral damage as your negotiators try to hurt us.
thank you Chuck (dejavu to Cilla Black there)
and this is precisely why I think an executed and completed Brexit is too hard to call in terms of placing a wager, because all it takes, and the floor is open, is for some reforms in the EU and voila the party continues
This show is not over and for sure, it's going to a be a long drawn out soap opera.
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Originally posted by WTFH View PostThere are many Brits who would struggle to pass an English test - not because English isn't their first language, but because text speak/poor grammar.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Brexit logic. The EU is a tyranny. We fought two world wars to be free of tyranny. We must leave the EU.
I've yet to see the first point coherently demonstrated.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Originally posted by milanbenes View Postthank you Chuck (dejavu to Cilla Black there)
and this is precisely why I think an executed and completed Brexit is too hard to call in terms of placing a wager, because all it takes, and the floor is open, is for some reforms in the EU and voila the party continues
This show is not over and for sure, it's going to a be a long drawn out soap opera.
Milan.
Try typing "an idiots guide to Brexit" into Google and come back when you think you know somethingLet us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostIn other words you haven't got a f**king clue
Try typing "an idiots guide to Brexit" into Google and come back when you think you know something
you lost me there DA.
Go and have a cup of tea and come back and tell us again what you want to say.
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostIt would make it far more certain that the result reflected the views of all eligible voters, not just those that got off their backsides. Of course the margin of the win wouldn't affect the consequences of Brexit one jot.
Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
which is already quite significantNot an EU issue - rather a France/UK issue. But I applaud your smug mean-spiritedness
I admire your generosity with other people's money you appear to be supplying little from your comfortable Swiss home. Have you ever thought of singing, treading the boards or joining the labour party? you would fit right in! You can always move to a tax haven to complete the hypocrisy.
I assume you believe people who have paid massive sums to traverse Europe for economic migration are entitled to enter the UK and undercut / enslave others? I would much prefer to fix the problem at source.
Do tell me if a chap (and they are mainly chaps) coming from a regime so corrupt and unpleasant western nations feel the need to invade has a relative fortune such as £10,000 to pay to cross Europe illegally what sort of person do you think he or his family are likely to be?
The vast majority of people in the world live on a dollar a day and have poor school & health prospects are you going to open your basement for all of them?
We need to go to Africa, India etc and provide them education & peace so they can develop their Infrastructure & healthcare. Obviously we can't do that as it would be attacked as imperialist so we stood back & China bought everything.
Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostPost brexit (which you may have noticed hasn't happened yet) there a few alternatives.
Some rambling Tulip masquerading as economic analysis
Since we don't have a parallel world to see what would have happened, it's all speculation. What we do know is that right now Britain is not as rich as it was, and that this is probably a direct consequence of the UNCERTAINTY CAUSED BY THE referendum result.
1. Large pan European or world Empires always fall, frequently with massive bloodshed. Greeks,Romans,Spanish,French & British.
2. Federations normally need an authoritarian government to bind them - Russia.
3. Most of Europe has tried to invade & rule most of the rest. Never ends well.
4. The most effective cross border organisations depend on mutual cooperation and mostly equal billing. NATO.
5. Organisations that people are moved into without their consent are frequently bad. We were told it was a trading union it is in reality a political union.
6. Organizations that want to punish you for leaving are frequently bad.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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