Navigating a PSL for new inside contract

[hobnob]

Looking at the original list, I'm guessing that it came from Hays. I.e. it looks almost identical to the list that Hays sent me recently; the only difference is that my list didn't include Orange Genie, presumably because of the issues discussed here:
Orange Genie - Skimming allegations - Contractor UK Bulletin Board

Green Lantern Trades Ltd GREEN LANTERN TRADES LIMITED overview - Find and update company information - GOV.UK (company-information.service.gov.uk)

Accounts overdue by 21 months - and active proposal to strike off.

The list that I received had 3 columns: name, website, and phone number. In this particular case, there seems to be a mismatch:
* The name is "Green Lantern Trades" (company number 11297635). Using eek's link, their accounts are still overdue, 7 months later!
* The website is "Green Lantern Group" (company number 12402471). Their accounts are up to date:
GREEN LANTERN GROUP LIMITED overview - Find and update company information - GOV.UK (company-information.service.gov.uk)

I don't know whether there's any link between the 2 companies. If you are considering them, it's certainly worth asking the agency to confirm which company is on the PSL.

If this is Hays, be aware that you don't have to use an umbrella from their PSL, although the agent will strongly recommend it. Ask your preferred umbrella whether they can deal with the agency, and you might get lucky.

[Contractor2022]

Just got this PSL for umbrella companies for a new inside contract. Any of these need to be consigned to the bin?

Agent has said I cannot select outside of this list unfortunately, due to a compliance agreement. Which presumably is a good thing, apart from the restricted choice?

APPpayeLtd

Azebra Umbrella Ltd

Clipper Contracting Group Ltd

Crest Plus Ltd

Danbro Ltd

Exceed outsourcing ltd

Exchequer Solutions Ltd

Focused Consulting Ltd

Giant Professional Ltd

Green Lantern Trades Ltd

JSA Services Ltd

KPPES Ltd (My Key Pay group)

N W M Solutions Ltd

Orange Genie Cover Ltd

Parasol Ltd

Paystream My Max Ltd

Sterling Solutions Umbrella Ltd

I'd personally go with PayStream. Do not use Orange Genie, they are probably the worst ones out there.

[Cookielove]

I had an inside role tried using Clarity but the agency would not entertain it. Had to choose from their list which was fairly limited. Chose Danbro, they were ok got paid on time no issues...

[BillHicksRIP]

Been with Paystream on an inside contract for a year and had zero problems.

[gables]

Thanks. I've just done a quick check of all of them on FCSA and looked at the CH entries for each. This has thinned the list down; Exchequer, Giant, Paystream, Sterling.

Going to do some googling on these, and ask the agent about the list. I note Clarity getting a lot of good press on this forum, so will give them a call.

Out of those I've only used Paystream (more then once and currently with them) and haven't had any issues at all, literally none.

[ForBajor]

Your search hasn't been that great Exchequer have a £11m HMRC tax bill to pay for wrongly allowing expenses to be claimed in 2015 through 17.

Dang. My search clearly slower than yours. Have been googling and found that and some other useful links for the others...

https://forums.contractoruk.com/umbrella-companies/121106-sterling-umbrella-avoid.html

https://forums.contractoruk.com/umbrella-companies/146509-exchequer-solutions-owes-%C2%A311m-in-unpaid-taxes.html

https://forums.contractoruk.com/umbr...ml#post2717942

https://forums.contractoruk.com/umbrella-companies/140214-parasol-vs-giant-vs-paysteam-which-one.html

[eek]

Thanks. I've just done a quick check of all of them on FCSA and looked at the CH entries for each. This has thinned the list down; Exchequer, Giant, Paystream, Sterling.

Going to do some googling on these, and ask the agent about the list. I note Clarity getting a lot of good press on this forum, so will give them a call.

Your search hasn't been that great Exchequer have a £11m HMRC tax bill to pay for wrongly allowing expenses to be claimed in 2015 through 17.

[ForBajor]

Green Lantern Trades Ltd GREEN LANTERN TRADES LIMITED overview - Find and update company information - GOV.UK (company-information.service.gov.uk)

Accounts overdue by 21 months - and active proposal to strike off.


I would go back to the agent - ask them when they last checked that list and state that as the list is mainly FCSA umbrellas would I be correct in saying that the compliance rule states any FCSA umbrella and then speak to Lucy at Clarity.

Otherwise I would seriously look at hunting for another contract - that list is bad.

Could go through the rest of the list to highlight problems but its too painful to do so and probably hits NDAs without me thinking.

Thanks. I've just done a quick check of all of them on FCSA and looked at the CH entries for each. This has thinned the list down; Exchequer, Giant, Paystream, Sterling.

Going to do some googling on these, and ask the agent about the list. I note Clarity getting a lot of good press on this forum, so will give them a call.

[eek]

Green Lantern Trades Ltd GREEN LANTERN TRADES LIMITED overview - Find and update company information - GOV.UK (company-information.service.gov.uk)

Accounts overdue by 21 months - and active proposal to strike off.


I would go back to the agent - ask them when they last checked that list and state that as the list is mainly FCSA umbrellas would I be correct in saying that the compliance rule states any FCSA umbrella and then speak to Lucy at Clarity.

Otherwise I would seriously look at hunting for another contract - that list is bad.

Could go through the rest of the list to highlight problems but its too painful to do so and probably hits NDAs without me thinking.

[eek]

Nice set of kickbacks there - clue is in the Paystream My Max ltd option (i.e. the expensive option with minimum extras).

[northernladuk]

Agent has said I cannot select outside of this list unfortunately, due to a compliance agreement. Which presumably is a good thing, apart from the restricted choice?

Yes but no. Compliance tends to mean who is giving them kick backs rather than a true test of how good the brolly is. The main brolly most us would recommend is Clarity Umbrella but being small they are struggling to get on these lists due to them not giving kickbacks which is a real shame.

I'd also not trust their compliance. People have been pushed in to no compliant umbrellas by agencies in the past but thats a different discussion.

Personally I'd call Lucy at Clarity Umbrella and see if she's got her teeth in to your particular agent already. Clarity could already be in the process of being added and if so I'd push for Clarity. If they aren't then Lucy could start the process with them.

[northernladuk]

Use the google search method to search the forums. We get asked this a bit and there is some feedback on some of the ones you list. You also might find information on their pension offerings which tends to be the most important bit for a lot of people.

Go to google and type <umbrella name> site:forums.contractoruk.com

and it will find all posts where that particular brolly was mentioned. Some posts can be a bit old so check the dates on the post.

[ForBajor]

Just got this PSL for umbrella companies for a new inside contract. Any of these need to be consigned to the bin?

Agent has said I cannot select outside of this list unfortunately, due to a compliance agreement. Which presumably is a good thing, apart from the restricted choice?

APPpayeLtd

Azebra Umbrella Ltd

Clipper Contracting Group Ltd

Crest Plus Ltd

Danbro Ltd

Exceed outsourcing ltd

Exchequer Solutions Ltd

Focused Consulting Ltd

Giant Professional Ltd

Green Lantern Trades Ltd

JSA Services Ltd

KPPES Ltd (My Key Pay group)

N W M Solutions Ltd

Orange Genie Cover Ltd

Parasol Ltd

Paystream My Max Ltd

Sterling Solutions Umbrella Ltd