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[vetran]

Well done!

3yrs> 60 days seems a reasonable comparison sorry if you don't understand.

[DoctorStrangelove]

The outcome of Trump's failure to continue measures penalising Russia for their breach of this agreement may be that some nations who previously would have accepted assurances of protection from the US and other powers in return for not developing their own nuclear weapons, might now decide that those assurances aren't very reliable and they'll just get on and protect themselves. In other words, it has the potential to screw up any non-proliferation treaties.

Well we've got 100 tonnes of Pu that could come in handy, if they're a bit short, like. .

Stocks of Cobalt Thorium G are also looking adequate.

[sadkingbilly]

ftfy

I guess that's a 'NO' then.

[Paddy]

I agree it feels unfair but if Europe had stopped buying Russian Gas then their economy would be round the U-bend and Putin would be after peace.

Nop. Russian gas and oil is sold to China and India. India re-exports it to the rest of the world including the UK. All that happens is we get Russian Oil and LPG via India at a higher cost.

[vetran]

I agree that the war needs to end. After 3 years, it's going nowhere*, and just resulting in loss of life.

What I don't like is rewarding Russia/Putin for aggression. At some point he might try grabbing a piece of another former Soviet state. Even them being in NATO doesn't seem to be the security assurance it once was. And I'm sure other potential aggressors around the world are watching with keen interest (China/Taiwan).

The only slight consolation is that Russia has paid a very high price for this foray. Militarily they are diminished, and the economy is down the toilet.

* if anything, Ukraine are slowly losing

I agree it feels unfair but if Europe had stopped buying Russian Gas then their economy would be round the U-bend and Putin would be after peace.

[vetran]

wibble

ftfy

[woody1]

6 weeks in Trump has a plan and is implementing it, you may not like result. Same as Israel but less killing is a good thing.

I agree that the war needs to end. After 3 years, it's going nowhere*, and just resulting in loss of life.

What I don't like is rewarding Russia/Putin for aggression. At some point he might try grabbing a piece of another former Soviet state. Even them being in NATO doesn't seem to be the security assurance it once was. And I'm sure other potential aggressors around the world are watching with keen interest (China/Taiwan).

The only slight consolation is that Russia has paid a very high price for this foray. Militarily they are diminished, and the economy is down the toilet.

* if anything, Ukraine are slowly losing

[sadkingbilly]

And what have Biden, Macron, the various UK PMs done despite flouncing off in front of the Guardian? Putin will only behave when the other bully is scarier. If Nato put on some muscle and the rest of the world start paying their dues they can be the bully. Trump has made it clear the USA doesn't want that job under him.

Trump is doing something, the fighting will stop and peace of a sort will resume when Trump & Vance start marking out Tank parking spaces in front of the Kremlin.

Which agreement do YOU BELIEVE has been broken by America in Trump's first 60 days?



Have you noticed an Arab backed "Gaza malja" has just been proposed? Maybe threatening a Gaza Lago worked?

Maybe if the Arabs pay for Israel returning fire when the Gazans start attacking them with rockets as usual it won't happen?

do you actually READ the blather you post??

[vetran]

Russia can't be trusted to keep any agreement. Nor can the US now. As Zalensky pointed out, there's been 25 agreements with Putin - all have been broken.

And what have Biden, Macron, the various UK PMs done despite flouncing off in front of the Guardian? Putin will only behave when the other bully is scarier. If Nato put on some muscle and the rest of the world start paying their dues they can be the bully. Trump has made it clear the USA doesn't want that job under him.

Trump is doing something, the fighting will stop and peace of a sort will resume when Trump & Vance start marking out Tank parking spaces in front of the Kremlin.

Which agreement do YOU BELIEVE has been broken by America in Trump's first 60 days?



Have you noticed an Arab backed "Gaza malja" has just been proposed? Maybe threatening a Gaza Lago worked?

Maybe if the Arabs pay for Israel returning fire when the Gazans start attacking them with rockets as usual it won't happen?

[SueEllen]

Vetty likes to Putin minimal effort.

They banned Russian broadcasters but still their disinformation gets through.

[Snooky]

This European war has been going on for years and the EU hasn't done anything except pay Vlad's heating bill. The American's until now have done little but give moral support.

6 weeks in Trump has a plan and is implementing it, you may not like result. Same as Israel but less killing is a good thing.

As mentioned earlier, please read up on the agreement Ukraine made with the USA, UK and Russia in exchange for relinquishing their nuclear weapons. Russia has backtracked on that agreement, the USA seem to be wholeheartedly supporting the Russian position, and the UK is the only one of the 3 still determined to try and uphold it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

The outcome of Trump's failure to continue measures penalising Russia for their breach of this agreement may be that some nations who previously would have accepted assurances of protection from the US and other powers in return for not developing their own nuclear weapons, might now decide that those assurances aren't very reliable and they'll just get on and protect themselves. In other words, it has the potential to screw up any non-proliferation treaties.

[vetran]

You know I wasn't being serious.


Who is Zelenski?

Heard about the Budapest Memorandum signed on 5 December 1994?

Neither was I, just being inclusive for our posters that would be confused.

oops I can't spell foreign names. so sue me

I am sure Biden hasn't seen that! This European war has been going on for years and the EU hasn't done anything except pay Vlad's heating bill. The American's until now have done little but give moral support.

6 weeks in Trump has a plan and is implementing it, you may not like result. Same as Israel but less killing is a good thing.

[WTFH]

You know I wasn't being serious.

Who is Zelenski?

Heard about the Budapest Memorandum signed on 5 December 1994?

Vetty likes to Putin minimal effort.

[SueEllen]

SNL is not a documentary, though unsubstantiated drivel is where a few of our viewers exist.

You know I wasn't being serious.

Zelenski wants the USA to wipe his arse for some reason.

Who is Zelenski?

Heard about the Budapest Memorandum signed on 5 December 1994?

[vetran]

SNL is not a documentary, though unsubstantiated drivel is where a few of our viewers exist.

Interesting rational (in my opinion) counterview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEGTOVYEoGE

Zelenski wants the USA to wipe his arse for some reason.


Key points are to watch all 40 minutes.