Reply to: A really bad time for a career change

[vetran]

Caught out in your lying bullsh1t, and that's all you can come up with?

So your interview with NLyUK went badly? Cheer up someone will want you! Though it will be a very small number of people!

[sadkingbilly]

You have been hopeless for your whole life!

Ah but at least I am not responsible for clean up in Aisle 3 like you.

If you try your best you might get your dream job working for NLyUK cleaning the mess from the fetish menu!

Caught out in your lying bullsh1t, and that's all you can come up with?

[Gibbon]

However putting food on the table and paying the bills is - at least you'd be earning.

It's easier to find a job when you've got a job!

To copy NAT This ^^^^^^

[vetran]

you've been a permie for the last 20+ years!

You have been hopeless for your whole life!

Ah but at least I am not responsible for clean up in Aisle 3 like you.

If you try your best you might get your dream job working for NLyUK cleaning the mess from the fetish menu!

[sadkingbilly]

Plenty of us have been out recently for months and are back in. I beat plenty of my peers back in which was nice but I was worried.

If they hire me then they can't be that fussy!

you've been a permie for the last 20+ years!

[vetran]

Well this is it. Isn't the Economy at an all time high, and supposedly there are still job shortages aren't there? Eventually its all got to give, right?

Plenty of us have been out recently for months and are back in. I beat plenty of my peers back in which was nice but I was worried.

If they hire me then they can't be that fussy!

[vetran]

I'm afraid that you are going to need to do the inconsequential stuff and you are going to need to justify spending on new quals.

Just because you think it's inconsequential, it doesn't mean that others do. Don't bother with the 'LI as a CV' guff - LI is there for networking and that's what you've got to do as you're invisible at the moment.

Time to put what you think aside and start thinking like prospective clients.

As above there will be a very negative effect on you after many months out. There are many certs / ways of demonstrating your skill thast aren't expensive £100 for a cert is an investment, the very action of developing yourself will be positive for you.

Find a technical managerial skill and make yourself the best you can.

Jimmy Carr on diary of a CEO is a good watch.

[CodeCobbler]

We've been hearing this for the last quarter or two... Everyone seems to be hell bent on sacking people and rates don't really want to be coming down. Then again you can only sack so many people to fake profits that something's eventually going to give. I hope.

Well this is it. Isn't the Economy at an all time high, and supposedly there are still job shortages aren't there? Eventually its all got to give, right?

[CodeCobbler]

Overly negative view of where tech is headed I think. Its a cyclical industry, and doubtless some new hot trend will emerge as the market warms back up again. For example - I am seeing many more AI related contracts now than even at the start of this year.

I was under the impression AI had already reached peak stupidity and is on the down again. I don't think I've ever been realistically placed to take advantage of it. By the time I learn enough about it, it will long be over.

If indeed tech is a cyclical industry (lets be honest, we have no idea if thats true, the market is not mature enough to say), what do we feel are future fields? "AI" is a bit too general to be useful.

I think this is a tricky one. As I said, I think tech is over and the future is legacy and maintenance. Thats 90% of the future right there. However there will always be niche fields. There are ups and downs to niches though. I already had a great niche, but thats moved on and will not pick up again.

I think a related niche is in GPU related work. It would be a hell of a lot of work to put in just to transition into that niche, and would require a lot of luck too. Potentially it all fizzles out too.

[sadkingbilly]

Show your partner this chart, tell them you probably need another six months..

'squiggly sh1te here'

[dsc]

[...]Probably going to take another quarter or two..

We've been hearing this for the last quarter or two... Everyone seems to be hell bent on sacking people and rates don't really want to be coming down. Then again you can only sack so many people to fake profits that something's eventually going to give. I hope.

[Fraidycat]

We are living off the other halfs salary.

You are lucky to have that extra support.

Show your partner this chart, tell them you probably need another six months..

Worldwide IT Layoffs are down huge compared to peak but still not at the negligible levels we had prior to 2020 or in 2021 before rates were hiked.

Probably going to take another quarter or two..

[cojak]

I'm afraid that you are going to need to do the inconsequential stuff and you are going to need to justify spending on new quals.

Just because you think it's inconsequential, it doesn't mean that others do. Don't bother with the 'LI as a CV' guff - LI is there for networking and that's what you've got to do as you're invisible at the moment.

Time to put what you think aside and start thinking like prospective clients.

[jamesbrown]

Overly negative view of where tech is headed I think. Its a cyclical industry, and doubtless some new hot trend will emerge as the market warms back up again. For example - I am seeing many more AI related contracts now than even at the start of this year.

TBF, when you've been out of work for over a year with family to support, you probably have a pretty negative view of life in general, even if it doesn't help your situation.

[willendure]

I suspect going forward the future opportunities of tech will mostly be legacy and maintenance. But you do need considerable experience in those particular systems to be credible.

Overly negative view of where tech is headed I think. Its a cyclical industry, and doubtless some new hot trend will emerge as the market warms back up again. For example - I am seeing many more AI related contracts now than even at the start of this year.