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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post


    Tax the rich is also taxing the people with decent accountants and lawyers who can move their earnings.

    We also know that trickle down economics do not work unless the ones at the top actually spend the money in the country, and don't just offshore it.
    I realise some on here go for the old US Republican view of "It's not the HAVEs and HAVE NOTs but the HAVEs and SOON TO HAVEs"

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by dsc View Post

    Who gives two tulips about millionaires? Also, clearly China has a problem
    Well any intelligent taxpayers sharing the burden of supporting the mentally ill posting on this board. If the top 1% move I have to pay moreof a share of their 30% of the tax take.

    https://www.lse.ac.uk/research/resea...twenty%20years.

    Tax the rich is also taxing the people with decent accountants and lawyers who can move their earnings.

    We collect tax to pay for government spending. Change either and its more tax for people like us to pay.

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  • dsc
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    Originally posted by Fraidycat View Post
    Don't Lube up, Run!

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    Who gives two tulips about millionaires? Also, clearly China has a problem

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  • Andy2022
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    Why would anyone want to live in the UAE when they pull tulip like this: https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...vel-ban-lifted

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  • Fraidycat
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    Don't Lube up, Run!

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post

    And the Brexit costing the Earth
    Maybe Brexit can save the Earth, all those new trade agreements dictating to supply countries...

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  • quackhandle
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    After taking a shafting for the last 14 years I think lube wouldn't matter anymore.

    qh

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  • Paddy
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post

    FTFY


    it does throw light on some of the things many people comment on.

    employment up, GDP per capita down, service demand up service provision sown

    And the Brexit costing the Earth

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Paddy View Post

    An interesting article that I read as exactly opposite to your previous rhetoric
    FTFY


    it does throw light on some of the things many people comment on.

    employment up, GDP per capita down, service demand up service provision sown


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  • Paddy
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    An interesting article that is exactly opposite to your previous rhetoric

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  • malvolio
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    The Tories didn't strip anyone of anything, that is just another urban myth.

    If you want to blame someone go back to Thatcher and the push to de-nationalise things. While that was on many ways a good idea (compare your telecoms now to what BT were delivering in the 80s for instance), the failure was to require them to manage the level of re-investment and effectively allowing the new companies to put dividends ahead of services. Thames Water is a classic example of not spending milli0ons sorting out their network while paying enormous dividends to their shareholders. The same applies to almost all our public services combined with poor financial decisions at County level by vastly overrated officials; the mismanagement goes far wider than a single party in Westminster.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by dsc View Post
    How else you are going to gather money to fix all that is broken? and everything is broken. I've said it before and I'll say it again, taxes will go up for sure, the only problem is that if they go to heavy-handed on it, they risk dampening the already laughable economic growth. They can't borrow more (well they can, but it's not advisable) as the budget deficit is so crazy high.

    It's a bit like allowing your house to go into ruin and then moaning that the new owners need to increase service charges to pay for repairs. All those years of stripping services of money and underfunding pretty much everything led to this, so don't be bloody surprised. Or would you prefer to see Tories carry on like before and letting even more to crumble into tulip? Not actually sure there's much left tbh...
    Interesting reading

    https://ifs.org.uk/publications/cons...conomy-2010-24

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  • dsc
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    How else you are going to gather money to fix all that is broken? and everything is broken. I've said it before and I'll say it again, taxes will go up for sure, the only problem is that if they go to heavy-handed on it, they risk dampening the already laughable economic growth. They can't borrow more (well they can, but it's not advisable) as the budget deficit is so crazy high.

    It's a bit like allowing your house to go into ruin and then moaning that the new owners need to increase service charges to pay for repairs. All those years of stripping services of money and underfunding pretty much everything led to this, so don't be bloody surprised. Or would you prefer to see Tories carry on like before and letting even more to crumble into tulip? Not actually sure there's much left tbh...

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  • Paddy
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Old demon eyes is back

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Net-Zero.html






    its what the electorate wanted!
    The Tories did not want to win the election for that reason. The Tories trashed the economy, stole tax payers money and when the Treasury was empty they left. This is reminiscent to Harold Wilson's emergency budget a few days after winning the election in 1964.

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  • vetran
    started a topic Lube up!

    Lube up!

    Old demon eyes is back

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Net-Zero.html


    The REAL Labour agenda? Tony Blair warns UK faces £50bn in tax hikes by 2029 after Rachel Reeves 'paves the way to raise the burden' by warning public finances are in the 'worst state since the Second World War'


    its what the electorate wanted!

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